We were supposed to sign this guy at the same time as Tosic, but the move broke down due to permit difficulties, He has since joined Fiorentina, and looks pretty nifty. Modric type Player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeErAY6U08o
I remember hearing that he was the reason we signed Tosic - the ã8 million on Tosic was kind of a down payment to secure the option on Ljajic whilst we applied for his work permit. When Ljajic fell through, we flogged Tosic on to CSKA. Bit of a shame - maybe we'll go in for him later once he's established himself as a Serbian international and can get a WP...
The club came out with so much cobblers regarding this transfer, first it was a work permit, then it was because he hadnt developed as hoped both statements coming on the official club website contradicting themselves. Simply put we coultnt afford him at the time, we due to pay about 10 mil for him for him in the january, we then had the bond issue come in which we were able to move finances around. Even the partizan chairman said it failed because he thought we couldnt afford him. I mean come on, the club could have at least settled on a story, and dont give me that cobblers about not signing him because of him not developing as we had hoped. We bought the talentless, no pedigree, non developed bebe for crying out loud.
Agreed Utd couldn't afford him. Yet ã7million on Bebe and what over ã3million on Obertan. Mental.
But didn't we turn him down in the same transfer window as we signed Smalling for ã10 million? And given that he only made his international debut in this November, the work permit issue seems a reasonable explanation - we could have been gambling on him breaking into the Serbian international team to get a work permit and when he couldn't the transfer could have turned out to be more trouble than it was worth.
i dont really buy this work permit issue. lots of young players have been brought to the prem league even if they didn't fit in with the international appearances criteria, on the basis of being exceptionally talented. i remember when we signed kleberson, even though he won the world cup previously, he hadn't played enough games for brazil to meet the international appearances criteria, so fergie had to personally convince the tribunal of his talent.
To be honest, Stretty, there is so much of this "one thing happens and we get told another" stuff, so it's easy to believe it wasn't permit difficulties.
When we signed Anderson: "United's representatives attended a Home Office panel of experts where they argued that due to his exceptional talent he should be granted a work permit and that only his youth had prevented him from obtaining the requisite number of international caps."
United then announced this week , in a statement endorsed by the chief executive David Gill, that they no longer considered Ljajic good enough to make the grade. That, however, was contradicted today by the assistant manager, Mike Phelan, who said it was not because of the player's ability but because of potential work permit problems." You would think they would have a chat with each other before releasing storys that fully contradict the other, making them just like utter bollox and making the other person look like a lying jakass.
That's true, but Anderson had already played for the Brazilian senior squad, made his senior debut a year before joining us, made his U17 debut over three years beofre joining us, and played in all the 2008 Olympics. It'd be much easier to convince the tribunal to let us sign him that Ljajic who had never played for the senior squad and only made his U21 debut 14 months before he was due to sign. I'm not saying this was definitely the issue, but there were very clear WP issues with the lad which would have made the transfer difficult, money or otherwise.
I feel the bottom line is we couldn't afford him at the time, so different parties conducted different cock and bull stories. Surely we could have signed him and immediately loaned him eleswhere...
How did fiorontina manage to get so easily? They didnt have any work permit issue's?? Just asking but are they easier to acheive in italy?
They don't need work permits anywhere in Europe but England and Scotland... Either that or they are much easier to achieve. Source :FootyManager
IMG]WHO NEEDS A UK WORK PERMIT? Any player that wishes to play for a British club that is not a citizen of the European Union (EU) nor holds a duel passport from a EU country. The EU countries are: Austria ; Belgium ; Bulgaria ; Cyprus ; Czech Republic ; Denmark ; Estonia ; Finland ; France ; Germany ; Greece ; Hungary ; Ireland ; Italy ; Latvia ; Lithuania ; Luxembourg ; Malta ; Netherlands ; Poland ; Portugal ; Romania ; Slovakia ; Slovenia ; Spain ; Sweden ; United Kingdom Non EU countries in the European Economic Area (EAA) , for example Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, Liechenstein, are granted an automatic work permit annually if they can show that they have a valid offer of employment. WHY DO THEY NEED A WORK PERMIT? Many people wrongly believe that it is the English Football authorities that insist on a Work Permit. It is in fact a British government law that all "foreign" workers apply for residency and a work permit. The rules governing footballers is a special arrangement jointly agreed between the UK Home Office and the English FA to simplify the process and allow football clubs to plan their purchasing based on a set criteria. A Work Permit is not residency. All non EU citizens must also apply for residency as a seperate procedure. This is not special to footballers and the process, as with any inidivudal, examines everything from politcial activities to criminal records to financial dealings. WHAT IS THE PROCESS? To qualify for a work permit automatically the player, usually represented by the club and their lawyers, must provide written evidence that the player has represented his country in 75% of 'A' class competitive matches in the past 2 years, when he was eligible to do so, and that the country is currently ranked in FIFA's top 70 listing. If the player fails in that criterion there is an appeal process that may grant a work permit. (explained later). WHAT IS AN 'A' CLASS MATCH? This is a full international, endorsed by FIFA. It is not a "B" International, Under 21, Under 17 etc. While some friendly matches are classed as 'A' for players' caps, however, note the word competitive. This rules out all friendly matches. DO SUBSTITUTE APPEARANCES COUNT? It does, but only if the player, made an appearance, coming in to the game from the bench. WHAT IF THE PLAYER HAS BEEN INJURED? If the player can prove that he was injured in the 2 years prior to application and that that is the reason he failed to make the 75% requirement then the home office will take that into consideration. This is normally used for players who are just below the 75% mark. This is NOT applicable if the player was slightly injured and was an unused substitute during the game. Proof must be provided by the players/club doctor and the national manager/coach that the player would have been considered to play if he had been fit. WHAT IF THE PLAYER WAS SUSPEND? Similar to being injured, the suspension and the coaches' selection must be provided as written evidence. WHEN CAN AN APPLICATION BE MADE? An application must be made AFTER a contract has been signed and BEFORE the player starts "work" in the UK. This is why you will hear the term, "contract agreed subject to work permit" HOW LONG DO WORK PERMITS LAST? They are issued for the duration of the contract upto a maximum of 5 years. Under the football rules, a work permit legally does not belong to the player but to the employer (club). If the player is sold or the contract is terminated or expires then the work permit is no longer valid and the player, through his new club (if in UK) would have to apply again for a new work permit. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PLAYER DOES NOT QUALIFY AUTOMATICALLY? There is a second chance, called a review process. Each case is reviewed on it's own merits. There is no legal precedent. It can not be claimed "X, Y and Z, got a work permit so Mr A, should". The player, through his club, must prove to a panel of appointed legal and football experts that there are mitigating circumstances why he does not automatically qualify AND furthermore must prove that he is a player that will significantly improve British football. This is often called the "exceptional talent rule". That is simplistic as there are many other things to be proven in additional to his "skill". The reason why he has not already achieved the 75% criteria, his lifestyle, criminal record, personal background, club career, international career, national selection policy, relationship with national coaches and other criteria is also reviewed in addition to video evidence of the player and written testimony from esteemed coaches he has represented in the past. Being "a talented" player is not enough. HOW SOON CAN AN APPEAL BE MADE? Immediatly after being rejected on the automatic criteria but it must be made within 28 days of rejection. WHAT IF THE APPEAL FAILS? If the appeal fails then the player will not be granted a work permit during the current season. (June 1st - May 31st). The player can apply again, BUT NOT in the current season. He will therefore be unable to work in the UK during that season. The club may decide to abandon the transfer or complete the transfer and loan the player out to another club.
Lol, not quite correct but pretty much the case! Work permits in Italy are arranged by regional authorities for any authorised employer. The regional authorities generally don't want to be seen to hinder the local clubs, so they give them out pretty freely to any major club.
