you gotta be joking right. He is totally ineffective. And its not like hes in a crap team. If he cant score at chelsea what makes you think he can score in a different coloured shirt. dont forget Liverpool were glad to see the back of him coz he just dont get goals anymore. NO WAY would i want him at arsenal , because after paying out for him Wenger would play him EVERY game regardless of not producing the goods . Let some other suckers pay millions for him .
Because the rest of the league's midfielders are performing badly when we tally assists this season? Song's strentgh is his defensive game and there are better 'creative' mids out there to be had. The type of 'creative' mid I would want is someone like Mata, but played centrally and not wasted on the wings.
Bergkamp, finally someone who understands football. For those of you who don't understand .. it is called the law of averages. you could put the ****test player on Earth in the Arsenal team and the law of averages dictates that at some point he will score a goal or make an assist - if in advanced positions often enough. My case is rested.
What a crock of ****. Did you go to the game at the weekend? Who was it who put an absolutely beautiful pass onto VP's left boot? For a player who is predominantly defensive, he creates a fair few chances.
Your stats are just that .. stats. See my "law of averages" comment. From your list above only Gervinho is what I would call a true creative player, the rest just happen to set up chances. As for your comment about me being negative, I don't have to have the same opinion as you. The players I listed are mostly NOT creative and this is the reason we struggle to make chances in most games.
I am pleased that not everyone has the same opinion as me, the World would be pretty dull otherwise. As for your "law of averages" comment, it's bullshit. BUT, how do you get assists without being creative? Or are you saying that creativity is the same as flair? To have the 4th highest number of assists in the league so far says it all. I reiterate, did you go to the game on Saturday? What did you think of the pass for VP's goal?
I'd love him at the club and think we'd suit him far more Chelsea. Sadly, I don't think we'd even consider it unless he agreed to drop his wages dramatically.
Or the assist in the Dortmund game ;-) Song also doesn't take any set-pieces from which many players get assists (and goals) from. But he's more box-to-box with power than creative. Creative players are the likes of Modric, Silva, Mata, Nasri etc. Our team is creative as a unit, we get many chances in most games and Torres would certainly benefit from that. This season I didn't see him as bad as he is made by the public (bar the chance he missed at Old Trafford) To be honest, when I read this on BBC Gossip Column I did have the same thought as the OP. If anyone could get the best out of Torres now, it would be Wenger. In case Torres manages to stay fit and gets back to his old form, then the £20m would be a massive bargain. If he flops...Carroll was more expensive. I highly doubt that Chelsea would let him after selling Anelka and most likely losing Drogba for the ACN (and probably in the summer when his contract runs out)
I'd be surprised if Chelsea let him go for £20m, it would confirm they grossly overvalued him in the first place and also confirm they have given up on the player, both of these issues would not bode well for future transfers and/or attracting players. I think the one thing Chelsea make sure out of this is that they don't sell him to a rival (prem lge) because they'd be made to look incredibly stupid if he was to join another club and bang in 15 goals before the end of the season. Also, would I be happy about us spending £20m on a player in his form ? I'd say no...
guess what - some players decide they don't like the manager, the style, the team.....and ensure they can leave. Torres may be an example. We have one - Arshavin. Swap please!
The Magic Man, I am not trying to be condescending but if you've played football you would know the answer to your own question. The law of averages. We at present don't have any real creative players playing so of course Song has more chances to get assists. Because he is getting assists that doesn't make him creative. If you had a midfield of David Silva, Denilson and Bojan Krkic (sp?), Denilson would of course have the highest tackle stats and would look like a defensive behemoth compared to the other 2, but the stats are not telling the truth, Denilson is not defensively very good. That pass to RVP was good - but it was hardly some marvellous piece of vision - all he did was scoop the ball over the top toward RVP. I've seen far too many wayward passes from him to believe that he can make those sort of passes regularly - as he could if he was creative - and the way he struck the ball was of that of someone with poor technique.
Yes true, but this is a totally different Chelsea manager and style from last season, so Torres has had approx 4 months under Ancelotti and AVB and has failed miserably under both, that suggests more than just a non liking of bosses/systems and maybe a deeper attitude issue. If we were to spend £20m or £35m on a striker edging towards 30 I think I'd rather have David Villa
Go get him Wenger!!! I have always thought he's a class striker and he showed glimpses of his quality this season already, I think a new club that creates as many chances as we do would be ideal for him and us.
[video=youtube;02oM60zKha8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02oM60zKha8&feature=related[/video] Look at the 2nd shot in this clip for a good example of striking the ball with "check". I have NEVER seen Song strike the ball with check, all pros should have that in their array of passing. This is why I say he doesn't have good technique. If you can't strike the ball with check your passes will always curl unless you toe punt it. ALL pros when they spread the play, be it cross field passes or diagonal passes .. if they want the ball to go straight without bend, they kick with check. It is far less risky striking the ball hard to make it go long distances with check than having to curl the ball, there are many variables to think about when curling the ball. Charlie Adam shows the skill perfectly here: [video=youtube;MZvEdHY75WY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZvEdHY75WY[/video]
Reluctantly - I'd have to go along with this. In his last season at Madrid, he spoke about wanting to join Arsenal and I really thought he'd end up coming. That was until Liverpool bought him. He was electric for Liverpool, but I think a combination of injuries, change of manager and loss of form was why he fell out of favour. Chelsea spending £50m was a massive gamble and it hasn't payed off....yet. I don't know why Torres hasn't found his form. He is a class player, no doubt about that. But I think for us to gamble £20m on a player who isn't performing, would be very un-Wenger like
