I haven't gloated on this board or even on the Stoke board about our win on Sunday. In fact most of my posts acknkowledge that you were hard done to and that we got extremely lucky. If your post was directed at other Stoke fans that have come on here gloating (not that I've seen any), then I can only apologise.
Lets grow a set lads as Stoke won the match - of course they are gonna be gloating and be happy about it, why wouldn't they? There northerners, we're southerners. They mugged us and got the points, we got nothing. There a small club, we're a big club. Stoke have their place in football, they are an annoying well drilled team, with lots of aggression and the type of team you don't want to play away from home when things aren't going your way! Lets not whinge or act like the gooners as we have had our moan but the next time we win a game we don't deserve because of the ref, will we celebrate? of course we will Will we say "you win some, you lose some, thats football" i'm pretty sure most will. Stoke don't owe us anything, all they want is to see their team get a result so there shouldn't be any war of words with them. All we can hope is that the ref has looked at what happened and realised why he was making all them mistakes as that is what needs to be looked at.
"Agricultural I can live with, Physical I can live with; Even your one tactic for staying in the Prem, the long throw, I can live with." We've scored off of one throw-in in the last 18 months in the League. Hardly our only tactic, although we do use it a lot (which annoys many Stoke fans due to the fact it's largely ineffectual). If all you are reminded after a debacle like this is that you have to resort to a Frankensteinian version of football to compete in any way, then you are very easily satisfied. We played some delightful football in the last 4-5 months of last season - if you think our 5-0 win over Bolton in the FA Cup semi was "Frankenstinian" then I suggest you get your eyes checked. As for the fouling in the box, Shawcross does need to stop it because, as you point out, he'll get caught one day. You should check our first goal out though - Gallas grabbing hold of Walters' face and shoulders. Every team does it, but Shawcross is especially bad at it. Another thing to consider, is that after Sundays little shindig (in more ways than one) the referees who officiate your home games will be, shall we say, a little keener to get their decisions right.Your amnesty's over boys. People said that last year when a run of decisions went against us - they said we'd been found out. We ended up finishing mid-table, got to an FA Cup Final and are now in Europe. We'll be around for a while yet. The past few years have been good for us, but for years before that, mid table mediocrity or worse was all we could hope for. Wow, that sounds terrible - mid-table in the best League in the world. That was the point of my original post - I, and many other Stoke fans, have watched so much lower-League dross over the years that it's just nice to be where we are. I probably do appear "easily satisfied" to you, but you've got to remember that our clubs operate in different circles in almost every aspect of football, and that there aren't many clubs like yours that have consistently played in the highest League over a prolonged period. This is the best Stoke side I've ever seen (regardles of style of play), and I'll enjoy the good times while they last. It is called belief, belief that if you play the game the right way, in the end you will prevail. If not there is still glory in the way you play the game. At the risk of repeating myself, bolton have supposedly started to play the "right way" under Coyle and now sit comfotably in the relegation zone haing been thumped by us at Wembley last year. I think many of them would take back Big Sam in a heartbeat. Stokes tactics, when they were in the old Div 1 in the 80s were ultimately unsuccessful but I still remember them as an attractive side, far far better than the one you have at present. So do you if you are honest with yourself. You mean the side that got relegated with a record low points total? I was born in 1988 so can't really comment, but they don't sound "all that" to me.
I'm now beginning to think you're on a wind up. No-one can surely be comparing a one off P.L game against a non rival mid way through the season to losing in World Cups etc. Seriously get a grip.
I think I may have pointed out before that I don't care what you think, but if I haven't, I don't I know my feelings and what I can and can't compare.
And you pointing out you don't care makes me want to comment on the rubbish whines you post daily even more. But if you don't care then you wont need to respond....
what Happened Sunday is why i thnk the refs should have a post match press conference,to explain their decision's to the Fan's,otherwise how can you have any respect
Fine, I'll stick you on ignore, so we'll both be happy then I genuinely couldn't care less about what you say, but now I won't have to read it. So you can post away to your heart's content on a Spurs forum, that says a lot about the glamour and pull we still have
"Agricultural I can live with, Physical I can live with; Even your one tactic for staying in the Prem, the long throw, I can live with." We've scored off of one throw-in in the last 18 months in the League. Hardly our only tactic, although we do use it a lot (which annoys many Stoke fans due to the fact it's largely ineffectual). I find that hard to believe. Having towels sewn inside a player's shirt would suggest that, although you may not score direct from the throw in , you do so in the ensuing chaos; Otherwise why would Pulis persist with the tactic? If all you are reminded after a debacle like this is that you have to resort to a Frankensteinian version of football to compete in any way, then you are very easily satisfied. We played some delightful football in the last 4-5 months of last season - if you think our 5-0 win over Bolton in the FA Cup semi was "Frankenstinian" then I suggest you get your eyes checked. As for the fouling in the box, Shawcross does need to stop it because, as you point out, he'll get caught one day. You should check our first goal out though - Gallas grabbing hold of Walters' face and shoulders. Every team does it, but Shawcross is especially bad at it. Using one cup tie to try and sell yourself as a footballing side won't wash. The way you played on Sunday is the way you play this season against all but the weakest sides.. Another thing to consider, is that after Sundays little shindig (in more ways than one) the referees who officiate your home games will be, shall we say, a little keener to get their decisions right.Your amnesty's over boys. People said that last year when a run of decisions went against us - they said we'd been found out. We ended up finishing mid-table, got to an FA Cup Final and are now in Europe. We'll be around for a while yet. Your side's thuggery has been lambasted this week as much as your endeavour has been (rightfully) praised. Referees will look at Foy's shameful performance and realise there is a problem there. I can't imagine any ref wanting to attract the column inches Foy has this week. The past few years have been good for us, but for years before that, mid table mediocrity or worse was all we could hope for. Wow, that sounds terrible - mid-table in the best League in the world. That was the point of my original post - I, and many other Stoke fans, have watched so much lower-League dross over the years that it's just nice to be where we are. I probably do appear "easily satisfied" to you, but you've got to remember that our clubs operate in different circles in almost every aspect of football, and that there aren't many clubs like yours that have consistently played in the highest League over a prolonged period. This is the best Stoke side I've ever seen (regardles of style of play), and I'll enjoy the good times while they last. There are footballing sides in the Championship. They stick to their principles, as would Spurs if they were in that position. Winning at all costs is just buying into the souless corporate view of football that a lot of clubs have these days. It is called belief, belief that if you play the game the right way, in the end you will prevail. If not there is still glory in the way you play the game. At the risk of repeating myself, bolton have supposedly started to play the "right way" under Coyle and now sit comfotably in the relegation zone haing been thumped by us at Wembley last year. I think many of them would take back Big Sam in a heartbeat. And twelve months later they would be moaning about the dross being served up every week. Like last time. Football may be a game, but it is also a form of entertainment. We pay enough to watch for Christ's sake, we deserve to be entertained. Stokes tactics, when they were in the old Div 1 in the 80s were ultimately unsuccessful but I still remember them as an attractive side, far far better than the one you have at present. So do you if you are honest with yourself. You mean the side that got relegated with a record low points total? I was born in 1988 so can't really comment, but they don't sound "all that" to me.[/QUOTE] First half of the 80's really. Dave Watson, Steve Bould, Mickey Thomas, Garth Crooks, Mark and Neville Chamberlain, Sammy McIlroy, Adrian Heath, paul Bracewell; You had some great players. Sorry you aren't old enough to remember.
I'm insulted! I do not have to worry about being 50 for a good while yet, but i can remember the likes of George Eastham and Terry Conroy...you never forget a ginge!
So right NSS. I'm not 50 and I remember the Stoke side that was in the old first Division between 1980 and 85. They always seemed to be the first team I completed in my Figurini Pannini album....
People from Stoke have a really funny accent. That's all I can think of saying, at this point in time.
Are things starting to reach boiling point with match officials? I can't remember a season like this where so many games have been decided by officials making shockingly bad mistakes as this. This is really the first game of ours where they have had such a big impact but other teams have suffered week in, week out already. What's the point of playing? Let's just ask Foy and the others who he wants to win and then award that team the three points. Saves us all a lot of bother in the long run. What a bunch of inept ****ers!
I was more into Punani by the time Pannini came along! First things I collected were free promo's with Esso petrol, my dad was driving HGV's, it was always Team Emblems, embossed sticky badges on some foldy up cardboard thing, then coins which you pushed into another foldy up cardboard thing with empty round windows....like an advent calender in reverse! From the local sweet shop I remember little passport photo size transfers of players on clear cellophane, you bought them in packets, but i can't recall any book to put them in though.
notso, I remember inheriting a collection of footballing star "busts" that one sat atop a mini podium. They were given away with petrol, during the 70s. I remember having about 6 busts of Bobby Moore, but not one of Pele. None of my friends had any spare Pele busts, so I couldn't do any swaps. That cut me up, that did. The bastards!
I didn't know about any bust collection...not one you'd get away with putting on a shelf at home anyway! The old man changed jobs and if you only had a car it took ages just to get one thing, and the promotion would run out before you could complete it couldn't be arsed with it.
Gerry Gow. Wow,that takes me back! Used to play just like the Stoke lot.You know....if it moves,kick it!
Yep, I remember him trying to kick us off the park in 81 at Wembley, made that win all the more enjoyable I have a vague feeling he played and nearly scored against us for Bristol City in the 71 LC semi-final. We were 1-1 in the second leg (I went to both home and away legs) and right near the end some BRistol player had a great chance to knock us out, but missed a cross in front of a gaping net. We then went on to win in extra time (IIRC), and beat Villa in the Final.
