Liam Manning and the alarm bells

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carrabuh

carrabuh

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My God this team has so many alarm bells

Alarm bell 1 - Liam Manning

I must divulge, I never wanted Manning in charge. I have absolute disdain for English managers. They are 99% awful and quite rightly have been relegated to L1 So I am biased.

Alarm bell 2 -Jack Stacey contract

As evident yesterday the lad cannot defend and his attacking virtues are empty with sporadic greatness (and im being kind). This guy gets so much of the ball in great positions, he is a given a prime focus for attacks but it is unwarranted. He just is not technically good enough to go beyond putting the ball in the box. Fisher is a better defender, better technically and doesnt put the team at risk. We have to ask why the attributes of Stacey getting a new contract

Alarm bell 3 - Kovacevic

This wasnt immediate but after I looked into it.
This guy has been a calamity the last 2 years. He has not performed in any decent league, watch his highlight reels and tell me if you think his constant saving and pushing the ball back onto play is good.

Alarm 4 - The other "big" signings

I can't pick out individuals for being wrong (except Diallo) as if it was just 1 I'd be fine. This focus on size and physicality with Medic, Topic, Makana has destroyed this team. It is too much when added to Crnac, Chrisene, Sargent. It was shocking to watch Millwall (Millwall!) be faster, quicker and more agile with the ball. I was embarrassed. Im adamant if Kvistgaarden, Nunez and Marcondes had started that game we would have won. The starting team Manning picked is mid table mediocrity at best.

Alarm 5 - Diallo

Like English managers i am biaised against wingers. They are so overated (apart from Sainz). Being quick is not the be all and end all (Placheta). He has no end product. Wet lettuce passing, giving the ball away and 0 goals will be his calling card. I hope I'm wrong about him but it screams flop.

Alarm 5- Ben Chrisene

Why is Manning using Ben Chrisene as an attacking left back. Who in watching him has ever thought...hmm he'd make a great attacking wide option. Hes crap on the ball, cant run , can't pass and misses tackles. Yet he's being brought on. Its unbelievable given the quality with Marcondes on the ball.

Alarm bell 6- Football

This is the end result.
The quality of football yesterday was akin to the stuff Ipswich, West Brom, Stoke, Watford and Millwall have been playing for 10 years.

I mean how is Nunez not starting. Its bullshit ideals.

Positives

Darling and Kvistgaarden, I think it is clear they are really good players.

I have to say I genuinely cannot stand Liam Manning and his "flexibility", dont get me started on how inflexible he has made us.
 
carrabuh said:
Its not one game, that's the point I'm making.

Its the intention.
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Well it was the first competitive game for the manager & half the team .

Perhaps Revisit this thread in December & see if your doom mongering was correct
 
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Gladly. You can get a playoff team playing this way, but you'll never build a decent team with power, pace and size unless they have the touch, technique, agility to go with it.

Everything screams bullshit football pretending to be good when its not. Im adamant Manning is pretending he wants the players to express themselves whilst fielding players that are one trick ponies.
 
Yes he has.

Watch him when he does. These types of players are hopeless. You think it looks good but they do nothing.

Watch his and Kovacevics highlights, bearing in mind this the best of them. Sloppy saves and no end product.

Straight line speed is good for central defenders, wingers need agility and acceleration
 
I think I'll wait to see a lot more games before making judgements on players or the coach.

Edit: I've just seen that Kvistgaarden played for 36 minutes and his Pass Success rate was 100% - every pass was successful. Impressive. He also had 1 of our 3 shots on target. Topić's Pass Success rate was 90%.
 
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if you think his constant saving and pushing the ball back onto play is good. I posted something very similar when I saw Kovacevic's highlight reel on the transfer thread
 
carrabuh said:
Yes he has.

Watch him when he does. These types of players are hopeless. You think it looks good but they do nothing.

Watch his and Kovacevics highlights, bearing in mind this the best of them. Sloppy saves and no end product.

Straight line speed is good for central defenders, wingers need agility and acceleration
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Two assists for Diallo last night <doh>
 
KIO said:
Two assists for Diallo last night <doh>
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Wait and see, his performance was severely overated (id hardly call Nunez an assist). His passing is limp and lacks conviction. Watford were rubbish and when they made changes he disappeared and was taken off.
 
DUNCAN DONUTS said:
Did he steal your bicycle or something ?

Jeez
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No, I'm just making my point on a discussion forum.

If i thought he was going to be good I wouldn't be saying it.

If he ends up being good then great. I don't like most wingers and I dont like straight line speed wingers with limp passing and can't shoot.

Look at his pass for Sargents goal. Limp.
 
carrabuh said:
No, I'm just making my point on a discussion forum.

If i thought he was going to be good I wouldn't be saying it.

If he ends up being good then great. I don't like most wingers and I dont like straight line speed wingers with limp passing and can't shoot.

Look at his pass for Sargents goal. Limp.
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That's kind of shooting yourself in the foot by asking me to look at his 2 assists on his debut .
 
If anything inexperienced sloppy players get excited & over hit passes that fizz past or behind the approaching attacker rather than a subtle pull back straight into his path .

Both assists were perfectly timed in my opinion
 
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DUNCAN DONUTS said:
If anything inexperienced sloppy players get excited & over hit passes that fizz past or behind the approaching attacker rather than a subtle pull back straight into his path .

Both assists were perfectly timed in my opinion
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The pass to Sargent was anything but limp. He timed it perfectly and delivered it at a pace that Josh could sweep into the goal in one movement. A hard pass could well have required additional touches that would have given Selvik or their CBs time to react. The pass to Núñez for the second goal was also well judged allowing him to pick up the ball in his stride and then shoot.
 
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Love this, classic carrabuh <laugh>

Like the good old days

If he scores it will no doubt be “terrible strike, weak and inaccurate - he only scored because he was incapable of passing properly to someone else. Sack him.” If he gets a brace so think carrabuh might implode
 
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