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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 19th August)

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  1. ellandback

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    Good Morning. It's Tuesday 19th August, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    Nmecha's late penalty seals deserved win for Leeds

    Leeds United announced their return to the Premier League in dramatic fashion, as Lukas Nmecha’s late penalty secured a hard-fought but thoroughly deserved 1-0 victory over a lacklustre Everton at a thunderous Elland Road. In what was a typically supercharged Yorkshire atmosphere, Daniel Farke’s side were dominant from the opening whistle, yet it seemed their profligacy in front of goal would cost them two crucial points until late drama unfolded.

    For large parts of the game, the story was one of relentless Leeds pressure and stubborn, if uninspired, Everton resistance. The hosts pinned the visitors back in a state of panic throughout the first half, firing off 12 shots but managing to get only one on target, fuelling fears among the home support that their intensity would go unrewarded. Everton, meanwhile, offered little in attack, taking a staggering 53 minutes to muster their first shot on target, with even the introduction of new loan signing Jack Grealish failing to provide the necessary spark.

    As the second half wore on and Leeds’ initial adrenalin-fuelled pace began to fade, the raucous night threatened to fizzle out into a frustrating stalemate. But with just eight minutes remaining, the crucial moment arrived. A shot from Anton Stach was blocked by the arm of Everton captain James Tarkowski, and after a VAR check, referee Chris Kavanagh pointed to the spot. Nmecha stepped up and confidently dispatched the penalty, sending the home fans into delirium.

    While the penalty itself may have been a touch fortuitous, few in the stadium could argue that Leeds were not worthy winners on the balance of play. They navigated an anxious seven minutes of stoppage time with debutant goalkeeper Lucas Perri remaining largely untroubled, and the final whistle was met with a roar that shook the famous old stadium. The victory was a perfect reintroduction to the top flight, proving that the hostile environment of Elland Road will be a formidable asset in their campaign for Premier League survival.

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    Pundits divided by penalty decision

    The penalty awarded against Everton’s James Tarkowski has left players, pundits, and fans deeply divided. The incident saw Tarkowski lean into the goal-bound strike from Anton Stach, successfully blocking it with an arm that was positioned tightly against his torso. While referee Chris Kavanagh's decision to award the spot-kick was immediate, the verdict on its legitimacy was anything but.

    On one side of the argument, critics like Chris Sutton labelled the call a "scandal," insisting that a player cannot be punished when their arm is in a natural position by their side. This view is shared by many who feel the current interpretation of the rule is "really, really harsh" and fails to account for the unavoidable nature of such deflections in the heat of the moment. Former player Conor Coady’s frustration summed up this sentiment, admitting a widespread confusion over what even constitutes a handball anymore.

    However, Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher were adamant that the referee got it right. Neville argued that intention was demonstrated by movement, stating that Tarkowski "leans into it as he blocks it." He suggested the defender’s own reaction betrayed his guilt, claiming he knew he had made a mistake by deliberately moving his arm towards the ball to intercept its path.

    This incident perfectly encapsulates the rule's ambiguity: was it an instinctive block with an arm in a natural position, or a deliberate, albeit subtle, movement to gain an unfair advantage? The lack of consensus proves that clarity on the handball law remains as elusive as ever.

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    Villareal plot Struijk capture

    Pascal Struijk's tenure at Elland Road could be drawing to a close, with La Liga outfit Villarreal reportedly plotting his capture. The allure of European football, could prove the deciding factor for the 26yo, who joined the Whites back in 2018 for a nominal fee.

    This potential move is further underpinned by speculation last season, suggesting the Leeds hierarchy had privately assured him they would not stand in his way if he wanted to fly the coup this summer, demonstrating a long-standing understanding between player and club.

    The recent acquisition of Slovenian international Jaka Bijol is widely interpreted as a proactive and astute measure to cover any defensive void left by Struijk's potential departure, ensuring the Whites maintain crucial depth in their backline.

    While prepared to sanction his sale, Leeds will not allow their key defender to leave for a nominal fee. The club is understood to be seeking a substantial transfer fee in the region of £25 million to sanction the move. With the summer transfer window rapidly ticking towards its deadline, the pressure is now on Villarreal to act decisively and present an offer that meets Leeds' valuation.

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  2. Gessa

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    If the decision was st the other end, Sutton would have called it as correct, over the years its blatantly obvious the boring twat doesn't like us, Conor Coady is still playing Ell, moved to Wrexham from Leicester.

    Not sure we can let Struijk go without having a replacement lined up.
     
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  3. NostradEmus

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    Voice is still a bit croaky this morning.

    Great night, great atmosphere and a great win to get us off the mark.
     
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    Morning all

    It’s always hard as you’ll be called biased but he leant down into the ball, I don’t understand what’s controversial about it, penalty all day long.

    I don’t care, it’s over, three points on the board, we restricted them to very little, we were the better team in what I considered a must win game (some hard fixtures next)

    Farke is confident we’ll get “more” player(s) in attack before the window closes, we just lacked a killer finish, it feels good being LEEDS this morning

    We had some tired legs at the end, a few players lacked some fitness due to preseason knocks, all understandable but Farke made some timely substitutions
     
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    Had a long chat with a Wolves fan yesterday and he reckons without at least 4 quality signings theyre doomed. His biggest worry is, the managers style of play relies heavily on the full backs, which they had 2 very good ones last season but both gone now and in his opinion been replaced by far inferior players.
    Hope he's right
     
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  7. Eireleeds1

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    It
    Really was a fabulous atmosphere wasn’t
    It. Everton looked
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    Shell shocked
    For a good chunk of that game
     
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    you just love the premier league
     
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    the handball rule/interpretation seems to change every season so I’ve no idea whether that should have been a pen or not. My personal view is that if you move/deviate towards the ball to block it and it hits your arm (knowing it probably will) then it should be a pen because it was a conscious choice.

    However, I can see the argument that if arms are by your side they are deemed to be extensions of your body.

    Maybe why the football world is split pretty much 50:50 on this one.
     
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    Il
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    Answer that at 7.30pm
    saturday
     
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    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

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    If we lost 1-0 to the penalty we'd all be furious.

    We are due a few decisions to be fair.
     
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    I wouldn’t be furious because, for the exact reasons Milky stated, I think it was a deliberate handball and a penalty. It would be hypocritical of me to then argue if it was awarded against us.
     
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    Not me,he moved to block it with his arm,pen all day long,for or against imo.
     
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    Yeah, I think it was a penalty but if it was Rodon defending it I would be saying it was harsh.

    Anyway, in the words of a bloke walking back from the ground "who gives a ****, we got the 3 points!"
     
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    Definitely a pen. He leaned into it when all he had to do was get out of the way with Pickford standing right behind him ready to mark a comfortable save :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    I wouldn’t say 50/50 I think it depends on who you ask, Hull fans 80/20 against us, Southampton fans 99% against us ;)
     
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    Post-match, Opta shared that Stach’s display meant he became the first Leeds United player to have at least 4 shots and create at least 4 chances in a Premier League match since Raphinha (4 shots, 6 chances) against Wolves in February 2021.
     
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  18. Leedsoflondon

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    You certainly meet some wise old owls when you go to games don’t you <laugh>
     
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    It was deffo a pen you blue soft lars GIZ us a loss,go on GIZ us Screenshot_20250819-155457.png
     
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    My simple view of the handball rule was 'ball moves to hand' = no handball, 'hand moves to ball' = handball. As he moved his body in the way it was handball. If he'd been quicker he'd have stopped with his chest. Or more preferably, face.
     
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