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  1. Forpadydeplasterer

    Forpadydeplasterer Well-Known Member

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    Have the recent promoted teams been that bad to go down so easily?

    West Ham / Everton / Brentford ( I know there's different circumstances) been utter wallop.

    Long way to go but we're in with a decent shout <cheers>
     
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  2. Scout73

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    They are trying to play out from the back but their defenders aren't good enough to do that and their CMs aren't good at receiving under pressure - bad combo
     
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    This is shocking from Everton. Midfield is nowhere to be seen, Beto is offering nothing, distances between the defenders is all wrong. Leeds doing well though.
     
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    Looks like a team with lots of new signings starting for them..... they have 1

    Doesn't help there's zero balance in the back 4 either
     
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    Leeds can’t keep up this tempo surely
     
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  6. Nads

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    Absolutely awful to watch Everton.

    Even the short passes to take the heat of seem to be a bit under hit and loose.

    Really poor looking side.
     
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    That alt ending lad on YouTube did a video on why Sunderland could stay up and he talks about the last 6 promoted teams and where it went wrong for them. In a way kind of suggests that the gap isn’t unattainable and the previous 6 just had really poor goes at it for different reasons.

    I think if it’s the three up that could down again there will start to be a convo about the gap being too big imo, not meant in an arrogant way but especially with us and Leeds being 2 of them and spending a load.
     
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    Can't tell if Leeds are actually playing well or if Everton are just making them look good. Either way Leeds should be 2-0 up
     
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    A bit of both, Leeds pressing really well but Everton offering zero
     
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  10. Nads

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    Dan James is a bit **** isn’t he. Built a career on running fast then hitting first man or nobody.
     
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    I'll understand if you don't have the time or inclination, but what does that actually mean in this context? Hear the phrase often and made my own assumptions in the past of its meaning but would be good to get your description?
     
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    The good are really good. The bottom teams aren't really that good tbf. The likes of Everton, West Ham etc have probably been lucky the other 6 have been dogshit
     
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    Leeds could really do with a goal here. Everton look like a newly promoted team so far.
     
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  14. Nads

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    A Leeds keeper just caught a football. It’s Armageddon I tell yee.
     
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    Stach gets around the pitch well. He looks a good un (after a huge 20 mins).

    I said during the Euros the Everton CF looked average. He looks really half arsed here, mind you, he is about 25 yards away from any team mate.
     
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    Bizarrely I could see this ending 0-0 or 0-1 from a combination of Leeds lacking quality and Everton not creating much, but likely to finish the one chance they get<laugh>
     
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    He's on the bench mate. Beto is starting
     
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  18. Nads

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    Stach and Tanaka very good players. Gnoto good.

    Stach and Tanaka not close to Xhaka and Diarra though, no way.
     
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    They've got 3 right footed CBs playing and then a right footed CM playing LB. The 2 fullbacks aren't playing natural positions so when receiving passes they don't angle their bodies quite like natural fullbacks. They also want to come inside more as that's where they are comfortable. When under pressure fullbacks can be such a good out ball as wingers are often quite lazy out of possession and can switch off.

    By not having a left footed they are closing off parts of the pitch so it makes Leeds press a lot easier - by having a balanced back 4 (like we had when Alderete came on) it helps you play out a bit easier

    Hopwfully explained that well enough
     
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    <laugh> just call me an idiot.
     
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