I think you’re making assumptions here, aren’t you? I’ve previously said, I won’t be voting for Reform because I believe there’s genuine Nazis in the party and until they’re filtered out then I couldn’t vote for them in good conscience. I’m not sure what Sunderland is like, never lived there and I’m not from that City so I can’t speak for anybody who is. I think mass deportation will certainly lift the morale of the country in general, though. I think anybody who come here illegally should be deported. We have a system in place for anyone who wants to apply for asylum the legal way. Can you answer why these working age men in boats are paying up to 10k to risk their lives crossing the channel in a dinghy and chucking any documents that identify them into the sea, when they could pay hundreds of pounds to jump on a flight over here and then claim asylum as soon as they arrive? I find that highly suspicious. What are they hiding and what are they scared of us finding out about them?
Fair play. It does have a load of Nazi’s. Head of UKIP did a salute the other day and the demo’s and unrest that Farage is encouraging at accommodation has seen a fair few. Interesting that people mention social cohesion but fail to point to the white extremists. To add to that, if it needs ICE style mass deportation to life the food I don’t think I want I belong here. Or doesn’t make me proud. I’d prefer people from all places made it work. That said, I do think we have to manage safety and manage capacity. Manage safety by exporting risky immigrants and make it safer by locking up those white people who justify and encourage disorder and hate. My view is we have to manage immigration numbers but create a system for accepting some but controlling some. The new deal has the aim of returning some at source, professing some and deciding and working with Europe to tackle the operators.They literally are exporting people, that point gets missed, but Farage and his millionaire friends keep throwing petrol on it to avoid the focus being on the real reason for tension, financial struggle. Those who are here settled and contributing, what is the point. That’s just racism.
This assumption that "the majority of people are in favour of Immigration " is exactly that, an assumption. In my place of work, my family, my friends, the places I frequent are all massively against it. Its gone too far now
They don’t want any immigration at all? That’s our country ****ed then. The best NHS staff are generally from abroad.
Extremists from any race and ethnicity should be jailed and have their heads boiled just for good measure. Everyone has a right to protest and voice their concerns but once it escalates to violence and racist chanting then they’ve lost any argument and goodwill, imo. Tbf, people have been getting locked up that have overstepped the mark, so that is happening. We can’t smash the gangs and win. It’s similar to the war on drugs, it can’t be won. There’s way too many to step in and take the place of any gangs that are dismantled. Off the top of my head, we usually ran at a net migration of about 30k a year and the country was better for it. That was manageable and never a problem. So far this year alone, we’ve had 50k turn up on boats and they’ll be even more seeking asylum the correct way. It’s far too many for a country of our size. We simply don’t have the infrastructure to support these numbers. Why are people (mainly middle aged men) paying 10k to risk their lives crossing the channel without any documents when they could pay hundreds of pounds to jump on a flight and claim asylum as soon as the plane touches down at one of our airports?
Well said marra,as a nation I believe Britain is a tolerant nation who welcome genuine immigration with open arms because we NEED immigration to thrive as a nation,the massive problem now with this piss taking of events across the channel the once tolerant population have been pushed to making right wing policies popular,and unless Labour or the Tories stop kicking this can down the road we will see far more extreme views than the Reform Party
Pot calling the kettle black me thinks with you, you never came back with anything creditable regarding Reeves assets frozen?
Why is it ****ed if we stop all immigration, train our own, as the left love to point out about brit empire just stealing from poor countries, are they advocating we do the same now but just steal the medical staff that are needed in their own country
Our health service is infinitely better with migrant workers. We simply don’t have the required numbers of British only to fill our local surgery’s and hospitals up and down the country. Our social care service is being propped up with foreign workers, I seen this first hand in my Fathers final weeks and months last year. We simply don’t have the numbers of people in this country that are willing to do such jobs. Without the migrant workers, we’d have been ****ed. Even then the poor sods were working 14/15 hour shifts rushing from job to job. British workers think they’re above picking fruit now and without the migrant workers there, the quality of produce we eat would go down. Go and ask the farmers if you don’t believe me. We need migrant workers who come to the country through the correct channels at a rate that we can handle. We don’t need anyone else. I’m saying we need to stop anybody coming illegally and immediately deport them. There’s no need for them to do that, if they’ve nothing to hide and are genuinely fleeing war torn or famished countries.
Just seen an article earlier today, thousands of newly qualified Nurses unable to get placements, shortage of doctors due to artificial limits on training forced by BMC etc. Every new person entering the country will get old so on you measure people will be brought to the country until the last space on the top of the tallest mountain is built on. THE COUNTRY is FULL NOW.
No it was the results of a poll, majority of people don’t even give them a second thought never mind take part. Look at how many people bothered to vote in the general election, people have lost faith in all the major parties, all liars and corrupt politicians. If there was a vote ( like Brexit ) purely based on immigration I would bet my house the majority would vote against it.
Can you provide a link to that article? Latest figures I can find show 48,828 nursing vacancies in the NHS alone. That's an AI data gather using Nursing Times and RCN as data sources so may not be infallible. As for restricted numbers for doctor training, I've heard that before and it sounds unreasonable but there again I don't know the history of why it was introduced. If it was simply to suppress supply and inflate market value it should abolished.
Simply… we need to find a solution to try and go back to the numbers that have always been acceptable and benefitted the UK. In the last two years, our net migration has been 1.1m. It’s simply too many for us to cope with. We need to forget about smashing the gangs, deal less with France and give more support to Greece, Italy and Turkey. Stop it dead at the source. By the time they get to France, it’s too late.
