Transfer Rumours transfer thread fact and fiction

Ange was rightly sacked. That league form was horrific. Finishing 17th is a bigger low than winning Europa is a high imo.

Yes he won the new look Europa (no CL dropouts) but Spurs aren’t in that this season and his record against top teams was dire.

Wherever Frank is the right man or not remains to be seen but let’s not rewrite history with Ange and start to say he should have been kept even time Spurs lose a game this season.

 

Grealish to Everton progressing

 

I do agree you with King, and I could probably have worded by reply to Colin better..Its not a case of me saying that we should have kpet Ange, but more that the having made the sensible decision to sack him, not backing the new man might be seen as making a mockery of that decision

 

As it stands, our squad is worse than last season, Son has gone and injuries to two of our better players in Maddison and Kulusevski, in a CL season as well. This is a squad that finished 17th last season, it no longer has any world class players, it is now full of mid table players, injury prone players and kids who Levy hopes will come good. Football has left Levy behind, he is now a mackerel swimming with sharks, but instead of doing the decent thing and selling out to another shark, he sends us into battle with inferior weapons.

 

Too soon to say that

The youngsters will have learnt from last season and hopefully be better for it. I expect the club to make at least 2 signings before the windows ends and 1 of them will be an attacking midfielder who can play in the 10 role.

 

Just been enjoying the posts/ debates over the last couple pages. Few things I’d wade in on:

I think Spurs are capable of signing higher calibre players but we hold ourselves back with our wage structure, we may not be able to sign as many like the other big six but we can absolutely sign one or two a season. £60m, £200k-£300k a week players take us up a level, whereas £60m, £95k a week players likely don’t make the desired impact their fees would usually dictate.

I definitely think Romero can be considered a (hugely) successful signing in that £40m+ bracket. Yes he’s had disciplinary issues and a couple of injuries but for £42m we’ve got ourselves one of the top ten CBs in Europe right now, whether he’s as good as King, Jan or Toby is mildly irrelevant because I think we should compare him to the current market and he’s absolutely one of Europe’s best right now, and he also put in one of the best defensive displays I’ve seen in the Europa final. We won the Europa League largely because of Cristian Romero, that alone is an immediate fast track to being a hugely successful signing.

Harry Kane is absolutely a club legend for me. One of the biggest too. 9 senior years of world class service where he didn’t have a single bad season. Even Sonny had one or two below par ones, Hugo faded towards the end, as did Jan, yet Harry was elite the moment he broke through to the moment he left. He holds practically every individual club record of note barring appearances, which I highly doubt will ever be beaten - just as I highly doubt Kane’s goal tally will be either. I’m devastated for him he wasn’t able to win a trophy with us but that shouldn’t take away his phenomenal service and loyalty nor taint any legacy of him being an ultimate legend of this club.

Last season was 99% a **** show but the 1% miraculously overshadowed it. Winning a trophy tops absolutely anything in football, more so a European one. Regardless of my views on Ange as a manager, I’m forever grateful to him on delivering that and he should be welcomed back with a premium seat/ box whenever he wishes at no cost (fat chance with Levy ).

 

I think that'll be a risk tbh.
I disagree with you re his sacking but absolutely believe that Frank should get full support from the fans.

I didn't like the way the fans turned on Sanchez and Royal in the past.
Or the way that straight after the win in May some started chanting anti Levy songs.

Unfortunately the more I read from spurs fans on SM I think that they'll turn on the board, Levy, the players and the manager as soon as things go wrong (if they do).

That will make it a memorable season for all the wrong reasons.

But all this may never come to be cos Frank's spurs will sweep all before them...but no true spur can think that way

 

Mate...Levy just sets the budget, which in recent seasons has literally been every penny we had. He doesn't choose the players. Our income is still increasing so eventually we could be the club with the highest budget. Then we will be able to compete. It's the only solution other than £1b of dodgy money which will leave us exactly like Chelsea...should we really stoop that low?

 

Agree with most of this but which £200k+ a week players do you think we missed out on? I reckon the reason they didn't join us was because a club deemed more successful signed them instead

 

No specific players per se because we don’t target enough of them and that’s sort of where my gripe is. We rarely seem to be in the running for what I’d consider to be high quality and/ or high demand players.

As of right now I don’t think we have a player with any star quality for the first time in decades. At a push possibly Romero from a CB perspective but over the last say 20 years, we boasted players like King, Lennon, Berbatov, Modric, Bale, van der Vaart, Jan, Toby, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son and Kane. We’ve got what I’d consider are a lot of decent-good players but no one you’d pay the ticket price alone to watch and no one capable of winning a game single handedly. This is despite Spurs now boasting far greater revenues than when we had initially signed/ developed those players.

If we assume the rest of the “big six” and the other five or six elites in Europe can afford to sign roughly 3-5 high quality/ high demand players each season, why can’t Spurs sign 1-3?

 

I'd agree with much of what DH has said in response to this.

Eze could be an interesting litmus test. Arsenal supposedly frontrunners. A player who would improve us instantly in a position recently vacated by a club legend.

Likely to command wages well in excess of £200k.

Arsenal haven't won anything in 5 years.

Will we barge in to at least try for his signature? I doubt it.

 

Eze would tick a lot of boxes, him signed permanent and Grealish on loan would be more than useful imo.

 

I think it’s starting to dawn on him what he’s took on.

 

Unfortunately, it's not surprising. We agree on that. Why though? Does it really take that long to identify alternatives?

MGW is one player that Frank wants. Are you seriously telling me he has no other desired incomings? No other positions to improve on?

Kudus MGW and Paulinha, and we are 'ready' to challenge?!?

If I were a betting man, I'd put money on us getting neither of these players.

If we are lucky we get Elliot or that fella from Leicester City, but even that seems unrealistic now Surely there would be movement in these directions by now if it were going to happen.

 

This is a very, very polite way of saying "I'm working with a bunch of clueless dickheads".

 

It has always been my opinion that coach should only have a veto over signings, he shouldn't be able to specify them. He has got a full time job improving the current players, someone else needs to have a full time job improving the squad.

 

Every top manager does specify though, there is no point giving managers players they don’t want. That will make the chance they’re gonna be a success even lower than it already is.

 

Criticising your colleagues in public is a sacking offence in most organisations and rightly so. I do hope this is a misunderstanding.

 

That's why I said he has a veto...that's entirely different from specifying who to buy.