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Lamont Peterson vs Amir Khan

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by Alan, Dec 10, 2011.

  1. SAMOC

    SAMOC New Member

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    I think khan does, he is ****ing ****
     
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  2. D4thincarnation

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    NSAC post fight urine tests would disagree with you.
     
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  3. ALTBOULI

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    Read my quote again, I was talking about Khan<doh>

    Now your exaggerating make it out as if he's charging at him with his head, you fail to mention Khan sticking his elbows in Petersons face which is far more dangerous and could have caused significant injuries to his face.

    Watch the fight again I think it was round 7 and maybe 10 he said something along the lines such as "This is your last warning meaning I’ll take a point away".

    You say he warned Peterson time and again but you might want to watch the fight again because Khan was warned far more than Peterson which was another reason why he got deducted those points, this again highlights that Khan was the dirtier fighter.
     
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  4. ALTBOULI

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    showing bias again, who is Khan to Marquez really, Marquez already beat Pacquaio twice in many peoples eyes, Khan's far less of a threat than Pacquaio and Khan has not fought as full blown Welter yet so he is a nobody at that weight.

    You always seem to talk badly and belittle Mayweather while blindly defending Pacquaio and Khan but the fact speak for themselves, Pacquaio looked very ordinary against Mosley and Marquez and Khan has just lost to an opponents that the likes of Bradley beat convincingly. Mayweather hasn’t lost a fight and has beaten many of the same opponents that Pacquaio’s has beaten but far more convincingly. Your suggesting that Mayweather is trying to avoid tough fights but what about Khan and his reluctance to fight anyone who has real power in their hands and what about Pacquaio who is avoiding Mayweather just as much as Floyd is avoiding him. Pacquaio for a long time tried to avoid the third fight with Marquez and it has been shown for good reason.
     
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  5. D4thincarnation

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    I know you are talking about Khan, but it was Peterson with the blatant low blow in round 8. Ref seen it, didn't even tell Peterson to keep them up.

    Peterson did come in low all night, head down, putting the top of his head into Khan's face.

    Just watch round 7, no hard warning there, no saying you push again and I will deduct a point.

    Are you sure it happened?
     
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  6. D4thincarnation

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    Khan offered Marquez the fight over a year ago, Khan was the champ at 140lbs, but Marquez said no. That is the fact.

    Pacquiao won every round against Mosley in a shut out, the Marquez fight was a very close fight. Khan dropped a decision against Peterson, where the point deduction made all the difference.

    The fights that Mayweather missed were Cotto, Margarito, Williams and Pacquiao. He got Martinez there as well.

    C' mon, are you really saying Maidana has no real power? Victor Ortiz would agree. Maidana needed no sucker punches.
     
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  7. ALTBOULI

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    Clearley you havent watched the fight he said "This is your last/final warning" I dont know why you are trying to argue with this considering you said yourself that he warned Khan many times
     
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  8. ALTBOULI

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    What facts show me the fact you speak of, and if it was over a year ago Khan was still not a major name in that weight. Marquez at that time was fighting the likes of Juan Díaz, Michael Katsidis and Floyd Mayweather Jr. All of these fighter were bigger names than Khan and were far more dangerous for Marquez, you make it sound like Marquez was avoiding him while the reality was he was fighting opponents who were higher ranked than Khan.

    Now your just being silly Marquez dominated Pacquaio and most experts will tell you that he should of had a unanimous decision. You bring up the points deduction but tell me do you honestly believe Khan didn&#8217;t deserve the deductions?

    Yeah he won every round but still managed to look average in the fight, Mosley showed how to beat Pacquaio and could have done so if he had actually thrown some punches, Marquez followed the same approach and by all accounts should have won.

    The same Cotto that lost to Margarito?, the same Williams that got destroyed by Martinez?, Pacquaio also didn&#8217;t fight Martinez who is a different weight anyway and Pacquaio fought Mosley, dela Hoya and Hatton only after Mayweather had already beaten them, funny how you neglected to mention this.

    You give 1 example of a person Khan fought who had real power now name me another that he has fought aside from Prescott and ill think you will find that he has not fought anyone else who is in their prime and have power in their hands. You blindly point certain things out while trying to hide other aspects such as why Khan didn&#8217;t fight Prescott again or Mitchell who challenged him or Brook, he could also have fought Katsidis who called him out before but you never mention this.
     
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  9. D4thincarnation

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    Remember this. It did not happen. Thats the point
     
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/01/amir-khan-juan-manuel-marquez

    Khan wanted to fight Marquez, but Marquez said no, and Khan fought Malignaggi instead.

    Marquez fought the second fight with Diaz, a fighter that just lost to Paulie who Khan fought instead.

    Khan is the star of the 140lbs division, and Marquez would have earned more money from this fight than the Diaz fight and could have won a title at 4th different weight.

    Thats the facts
     
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    I had the same score but by a slightly different route.
     
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  13. ALTBOULI

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    Funny how you pick one point from that especially considering that fact that it did happen, the ref warned him repeatedly and said something along the lines of "its your last warning" he may not have said the exact words but the meaning was clear, your picking at straws trying to justify Khan's claims but it is a fact that he was warned repeatedly are you also going to dispute this?

    The video below at 0:26: 24 not sure about the seconds but he says to Khan &#8220;Im not warning you&#8221; meaning ill take a point away but he didn&#8217;t until the 7th round now are you saying he didn&#8217;t give Khan enough of an idea that he was serious considering it took another 2 rounds before he finally got a point deducted. Throughout the fight he kept saying &#8220;let go Khan&#8221; and &#8220;Stop pushing&#8221; he must have said a dozen times every round. Are you still going to complain then that he didn&#8217;t get fair warning.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWF9Tbuzoes&feature=related
     
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  14. ALTBOULI

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    Check the video is just uploaded he says and I qoute "let go Khan im not warning you" meaning that he will take a point away what one person says is hardly a bassis to hold an oppinion on.
     
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  15. ALTBOULI

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    The article your basing your "Facts on says according to unconfirmed reports it did not make any mention of Marquez saying no and that fact that it is only one news paper your basing it on is not a fact.

    Diaz also beat Malignaggi and then went on to fight his second fight with Marquez, prior to Malignaggi Khan fought Kotelnik and Salita neither of which were world level so Marquez was justified not to fight him and instead opt for someone who fought a number of times at world level. Khan was not a star then he was considered by many to be an up and coming fighter and you cant say he would have earned more because those reports were unconfirmed.

    These facts which you speak of don&#8217;t seem to be facts at all.
     
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  16. D4thincarnation

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    So in a clinch, he tell, Khan "let go let go, I'm not warning you" and in your opinion that is the ref saying if you push again I'm going to take a point of you.

    And you think this constitute a hard warning.

    If this ref refereed Hatton vs Mayweather, Floyd would have gotten a DQ. And Wlad would have gotten DQ against Haye with this ref.
     
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  17. ALTBOULI

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    You also didnt answer my questions about whether or not Khan deserved to be deducted and you also didnt give me an example of an opponenet who Khan fought aside from maidana and Prescott that had real power.
     
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  18. ALTBOULI

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    Yes when it has been repeatedly said a number of times every round "Let go Khan was said in every round" and multiple times in most cases, do you think that isn&#8217;t a warning when he repeated it that many times?
     
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  19. D4thincarnation

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342901-beristain-talks-rift-with-marquez-marquez-khan

    Beristain goes on to say that Marquez "asked me to go with him to Los Angeles to work on the deal for his next fight, that his people (Golden Boy Promotions) want to match him with (Amir) Khan, but I told him that's not a fight to be taken lightly, as he (Khan) is very strong, and it's not a good fight right now,

    Khan, wanted the fight GBP put in the offer to the Marquez camp, Marquez said no on the advice of his trainer it would seem.
     
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  20. D4thincarnation

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    It is not. A hard warning is when you take a fighter aside and say tell them you are going to deduct a point if you committ the same foul again.

    And clinching and pushing are different?

    You must be the only one in the world that thinks Cooper gave Khan a hard warning.
     
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