Match Day Thread Hull City v Sunderland

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Don't expect hard evidence to the contrary to change his mind. He has his own intuition based on watching pre 90s football and the game cannot possibly have changed for the better.

Don't you know?
Most league goals scored in a season: 134, Peterborough United (Fourth Division, 1960–61)[52]
Most top-flight goals scored in a season (42 games): 128, Aston Villa (First Division, 1930–31)[53]
Most home league goals scored in a season: 87, Millwall (Third Division South, 1927–28)[52]
Most away league goals scored in a season: 60, Arsenal (First Division, 1930–31)[52]
 
Most league goals scored in a season: 134, Peterborough United (Fourth Division, 1960–61)[52]
Most top-flight goals scored in a season (42 games): 128, Aston Villa (First Division, 1930–31)[53]
Most home league goals scored in a season: 87, Millwall (Third Division South, 1927–28)[52]
Most away league goals scored in a season: 60, Arsenal (First Division, 1930–31)[52]
All those stats mean zilch, football only started with the inception of the Premier League, well, some believe that. :emoticon-0138-think


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
they are talking about one season
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_records_and_statistics_in_England#Goals
more goals seemed to be scored before the last 20 years

No there's a timeline indicating the years that goals per game records were broken. By your reckoning that should be in 1992.

From the BBC:
"There was a 14.9% increase in goals scored
A record number of goals were scored last season: 1,246, an average of 3.28 goals per game. It's a big jump from the previous season's 1,084 goals and average of 2.85, which had also set a record."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/arti...re was a 14.9% increase,had also set a record.

Also this doesn't take a statistician to identify a trend.

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No there's a timeline indicating the years that goals per game records were broken. By your reckoning that should be in 1992.

From the BBC:
"There was a 14.9% increase in goals scored
A record number of goals were scored last season: 1,246, an average of 3.28 goals per game. It's a big jump from the previous season's 1,084 goals and average of 2.85, which had also set a record."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zkb6g2p#:~:text=There was a 14.9% increase,had also set a record.

Also this doesn't take a statistician to identify a trend.

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Football didn’t only start in 1992. And there are more divisions than the Premier League.
 
All those stats mean zilch, football only started with the inception of the Premier League, well, some believe that. :emoticon-0138-think


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

Before the premier league it was a 46 game season not 38, so you can't as easily compare.

But the contention we score less goals now than in the 90s since wingers stopped bolting for the byline and shanking a cross into the kop half the time as Saxon Pete seems to believe isn't exactly going to be supported by stats from seasons before the 90s now is it?
 
Football didn’t only start in 1992. And there are more divisions than the Premier League.

Again, the contention was that more goals were scored 30 years ago when wingers didn't cut in on the 'wrong' foot isn't going to be supported by stats from before the 90s now is it?
Maybe you can show declining scoring rates in that period for the other 3 divisions rather than just coming out with an irrelevant statement that supports one of the many chips on your shoulder?

Or maybe you can't.
 
Before the premier it was a 46 game season not 38, so you can't compare.

But the contention we score less goals now than in the 90s since wingers stopped bolting for the byline and shanking a cross into the kop half the time as Saxon Pete seems to believe isn't exactly going to be supported by stats from seasons before the 90s now is it?

As it is goals per game you can. Unless dividing the number of goals scored by 22 is too difficult for you. For example I just looked randomly looked at 19351936 First Division as it was 90 years ago. 462 matches played 1,556 goals scored. Meaning goals per game were 3.37. Top score W G Richardson with 49 goals. Sunderland were Champions. Brentford were 5th.
 
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Again, the contention was that more goals were scored 30 years ago when wingers didn't cut in on the 'wrong' foot isn't going to be supported by stats from before the 90s now is it?
Maybe you can show declining scoring rates in that period for the other 3 divisions rather than just coming out with an irrelevant statement that supports one of the many chips on your shoulder?

Or maybe you can't.

As usual you are talking out of the back of your neck. Football existed before 1992.
 
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As it is goals per game you can. Unless dividing the number of goals scored by 22 is too difficult for you. For example I just looked randomly looked at 19351936 First Division as it was 90 years ago. 462 matches played 1,556 goals scored. Meaning goals per game were 3.37. Top score W G Richardson with 49 goals. Sunderland were Champions. Brentford were 5th.

And 90 years ago is relevant to the more recent trend of wingers cutting inside how?

Which is what was under discussion before you waded in with a ton of irrelevance.

And ppg doesn't take into account the cumulative effect of a significantly longer season.

Comparing 38 game seasons with 38 game seasons removes that variable.
 
As usual you are talking out of the back of your neck. Football existed before 1992.

Did it? **** me. Wonder what I watched in the 80s then.

But it's still irrelevant to a discussion about tactical changes in football since the 90s

Which you seem to be missing.

My neck = your arse.
 
As usual you are talking out of the back of your neck. Football existed before 1992.

As usual your ignorance precedes you. No one's denied that there was football before 1992, the argument was about not scoring as much now wingers cut in than they did 30 years ago.

But you and two wrights can reminisce about the good old days all you like. Just don't quote 1957 in an argument about the last 30 years eh?
 
Did it? **** me. Wonder what I watched in the 80s then.

But it's still irrelevant to a discussion about tactical changes in football since the 90s

Which you seem to be missing.

My neck = your arse.

It was about the difference when wingers were knocking the ball across. Seems back in the days when the likes of Finley and Matthews were doing that it led to more goals per game.