Transfer Rumours Summer Transfer window

Anyway can we just get a here we go out of nowhere again, much better frantically searching who the player is if you don't know much of them

 

i think he’s perfectly good for one more year, obviously he needs a multi year deal to make it make sense for him

that said he could do his year, we stay up with him playing his part and he gets paid off and moved on and his payout is so inconsequential in the grand scheme of things

I just don’t think any of the numbers mentioned here are disproportionate or unmanageable

it’s a totally different realm here since we were last in the prem

 

For the record, I’d be really excited if we hit Xhaka age or not, it’s great to be here. My qualms are that we are in this position because we’ve been smart with our spend and we can all now see the benefits so why change a winning model.

 

Good debate on here this morning, this place at its best

 

I think you have to adjust it for the Premier League, KS said as much. The gap is so big that you won't get away with it, and the top talent who are a young age cost you a lot in fees and wages (Everyone we have signed so far) and most don't have the league's experience. Not to say they can't do it in the PL, they will, but you need to supplement with some proper experience too and in the PL you can't achieve those on free's like we did in the champ, there is going to be a fee, especially if they are still performing well.

 

neil isn’t good enough for where the club want to go

people who do well in the prem coming from the championship stand out

and for the majority of last season I don’t think he performed or stood out all that well

either way if looking at it, based on age his potential ceiling is limited and his home grown status means a sale is very good for us

I think he’s easily replaced and there’s no room for sentimentality, rigg stays obviously as age and potential are on his side, not the same for Dan now and this stalling on a deal is odd

 

Spot on, differing opinions but everyone putting their points across well and actually seeing things from others point of view rather than it turning into a slagging much

I enjoyed the chat

Now for an actual signing

 

Good debate this and I don't have a strong opinion on either side so have stayed out of it.

What I will say is not many transfers are without risk and with each transfer its about balancing that risk profile.

Is committing to pay a 35 year old a c £80k p/w contract a risk? Yes it definitely is. But is that risk "worth" the potential that he could be a step change in this first year or two to keep us in the league? That's the decision the recruitment team and ownership need to make.

I'm glad its not me making these decisions but back the club with whatever they decide to do. But even then, our recruitment team hardly have an unblemished record with risky signings - look at giving Poveda a long term deal less than a year ago.

We have to accept that they'll get some right and get some wrong. And the ones that look right might turn out wrong and the ones that look wrong might turn out right.

 

Adapting can also be the elite version of the same model. Yamal could cope here I’m sure. With our without Xhaka. My point being I’d rather our first option is elite with a future in terms of % investment. Fully take the point join that there’s a balance and as I say at the point we are right now he’s perfect, a year on I’m not so sure. Give him to the Geordies in Neom then I guess or some thick rich Yank.

 

Every player is replaceable, I think neil showed the player he could be in that 2 month patch where he was a stand out in the league. He now needs to do that consistently, if he does then he's a PL player if he doesn't then we will move on

It all comes down to whether he signs a new deal or not, it's all irrelevant until then

 

Tbh that’s where I am. I’m making an argument then agreeing with the opposite. I’m just a passionate advocate of the model because it’s the reason why we’re in for Xhaka and the like. Smart business not daft business.

 

Agree, if the club can afford Xhaka and not have to sell Neil, and Neil can agree a new deal, I'd be happy with Xhaka for a year or two as Neil blossoms.

 

**** clean off

 

EDIT already posted

 

booooooo

I really wanted Lammens

Where next for keeper? Ramsdale gone a bit quiet but that could be us negotiating with him / Southampton. Or could be because it was bollocks.

 

boooo

 

I do think a new GK is very important I hope we find someone

 

Would Man Utd buy him and loan him out to get prem experience? Or would he go in as no 1 there? big pressure on a young goalie at man utd

 

Xhaka is turning 33, he’s not dying.

As for Lammens, a lot of top clubs in Europe are after him, that ship has sailed.