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RIP Diogo Jota 3.7.25

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Tiresias, Jul 3, 2025.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Forever is forever.

    Its a 20. Its not required for anyone and anyone asking for it would never be accepted as a lfc player by fans

    Lfc are very very very stubborn with these things.
     
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    Looks pretty final.
     
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    Number 20 will not be ideal for anyone for the foreseeable future at least. That Number has been stained unfortunately.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    No its not!

    Its immortalised.

    Its special.

    Its forever 20.
     
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  5. Zanjinho

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    In a hundred years time when we're all dead, no one will care.

    I reckon number will be made available again much sooner than 100yrs but certainly not for the next 20yrs. Hehe me saying it'll eventually be used again.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It'll be legend

    This is not a first 11 number.

    This is not an issue for anyone.

    We wont be retiring 7 or 8 just cos theres legends who will die of old age


    This is a special case and utterly unnecessary to mess with.

    With respect and in all seriousness lfc will never mess with 96 or 97 either. Never.

    And 20 will not be messed with.

    What does need to happen is that the club gets on with the business at hand but it doesn't look like the squad are too ready to do so.

    What will be best for them all is getting on tour ASAP in a training camp.
     
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  7. Solid Air 2

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    Probably just me but isn't this all getting a bit OTT . Obviously it is a tragedy for the families but people die every day .
     
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    Exactly. I totally agree with retiring the number but it won't be forever, hopefully it'll be longer than most of our lifetimes so there is no issue
     
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    The club always prided itself in being not just a football club, but more a "family". Whether or not we buy into that, I think it's an effort to maintain that in the face of multinational corporate cynicism.
    There doesn't have to be an over-exaggerated display of grief - that can begin to be a little cloying - but a formal retirement of the number seems appropriate to me.
     
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    not bothered by the shirt as such but just the whole coverage and reaction strikes me as OTT .
    Like i said it's probably me i had learned by my teens to just compartmentalise my reaction and just carry on as if nothing happened .
     
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  11. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Okay, this is his second language. I know what he means. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    I don't know if I'm reading too much into it and being cynical but could all this coverage be an agenda by the media to feed the 'self pity city' way of thinking against us?
     
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  13. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    I think yesterday was necessary, for the family as much as the club, and Preston tomorrow will be emotional, and probably the whole pre-season. Then there'll be the Charity Shield, and after that, the first home game. I believe Newcastle want to pay a tribute too, I read somewhere.

    But then after that, you're right. The players, the staff, and the fans can't use this forever as a reason for not competing at the highest level, and training and playing to the maximum effort. I'll always say, even though we won the league a year later, Hillsborough shattered a completely dominant era, perhaps understandably. Certainly, Kenny has said it affected him to the extent that he needed a total break from football.

    We can't let the next few seasons go like that, especially as we've now deservedly got back onto our perch. And as you say, all families face a crisis like this at some time, but they have to get on with it eventually or are consumed by it. We've worked too hard in the last decade to get to this place, and this new season with Wirtz and the other signings was going to be an outpouring of joy: it's no disrespect to Jota and his family to say it still should be.
     
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    I'm certainly blocking a plethora of bots on social media who see it that way. I tried as much as possible to avoid the 'net last weekend apart from here for that reason, but friends and family would send the odd link, but then there were very few negative comments apart from one or two who were already pushing the drunken/speeding slur. I just thought, don't give them the oxygen. They've become bolder now.

    I've simply started not scrolling down the connected comments anymore when I'm sent a link about the coverage. Life's too short.
     
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    can't see it myself but the likes of twatter will be full of that sort of ****e no doubt but those type barely need a reason
     
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  16. Solid Air 2

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    my opinion is now the funeral has happened everything returns to normal with the exception of a minutes silence at first home game .
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Look you are right.

    100% but the club are the ones who need to see this and I'd say getting them off on camp ASAP will be the very best thing.

    I'm getting a bit sick of photo op type flower laying and so forth by certain non current lfc players.

    The club did their thing and now they need to get back to work just for their own mentality.

    But that's an opinion that they may not share.
     
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    Tough they are employees and are contractually obliged
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's not about that par se. For me this is about being seen to be doing this or that and referring of being accused of not caring enough.

    Back room executives need to get off the cameras around anfield and back to work. I fully understand Rute was along yesterday but they now need to get back to their jobs too.

    The team needs to be got through their preseason youth friendly and on a plane anywhere they need to be to get focused on their job.

    Sadly its not a situation you can walk from unless you get a transfer so are you going to hang your head all year?

    At some point they have to stop worrying about that things look like and get on with their jobs.

    BTW, its a ahit thing but we all know the pain. You have to get on with things day to day irrespective of what your situation is/was.

    The lfc website is maudlin. It's absolutely a no go area now so they do what to get past the game tomorrow and go do their own jobs which is to report on preseason in the far east
     
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