1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,368
    Likes Received:
    14,230
    A lady who isn't white?
    Do I win?
    WTF is the problem? There isn't one other than in the heads of a stupid minority.
     
    #12381
  2. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    19,784
    Likes Received:
    9,098
    I don't understand a city fan is a city fan surely ?
     
    #12382
  3. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,684
    Likes Received:
    15,078
    A coloured person. Apparently that is incorrect. A person of colour is OK. You can’t say black because some people of African descent are brown. A good example of the stupidity was Idris Elba being introduced by an American as Idris Elba as the African American English actor. He gave the idiot short shrift. It was reported in that article that an American referred to Mandela as an African American. Mandela heard him and told him he was African and that was it.
     
    #12383
  4. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,684
    Likes Received:
    15,078
    Some are proper fans who stick with them through thick and thin. Some go even further, like Trumpton Tiger and Jim The Tiger’s dad supported them financially and in other ways in bad times. Some roll up when it suits them and then disappear, others stick with them. Be interesting to compare ours and Wednesday’s crowds this year, they are in worse **** than us with ticket prices over 60% higher.
     
    #12384
    springtiger and Jim the Tiger like this.
  5. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    9,679
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    How about a Citizen of colour? (Quite apt)

    As in any person who's not white?
     
    #12385
  6. BlackAndAmberGambler

    BlackAndAmberGambler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    9,342
    Likes Received:
    9,585
    I overdosed on Wonderweb once.
     
    #12386
    Ric Glasgow likes this.

  7. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011
    Messages:
    23,368
    Likes Received:
    38,173
    Only because the people you’re referring to have asked to be referred to as that.

    I’ve never particularly understood why, but if it means they don’t feel upset then why not? It doesn’t cause me any issue to simply refer to people as they’d prefer to be referred to, once I’ve been made aware of that.

    No idea why ‘woke’ is used as an insult. It seems to me to be simply used to refer to people who don’t deliberately cause upset to someone. I suppose it’s quicker to say than ‘decent human being’
     
    #12387
    Jim the Tiger, Edelman, HHH and 12 others like this.
  8. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,368
    Likes Received:
    14,230
    I've literally no idea anymore what we're supposed to say, how we are supposed to refer to "the people you're referring to".

    Are these people, whoever they actually are, the official mouthpiece for everyone or just themselves as individuals or specific small groups of like minded people? How is every supposed to know? How are people who don't keep up with media supposed to know?

    Why has it become so complicated, unclear, divisive. Why can't we just say a skin colour that is nearest to accurate? I'm white-ish, except when I get a bit of a tan. Call me white. That's accurate enough. Others are shades of brown, black, yelllow, whatever. So what, why can't we just say what we see?

    Why have some people got to look for offence when literally non is intended and expect the rest of the world to bend. Why can't it be simple.

    Or else, let's have a world governing body issue a simple, clear, unchanging set of very short rules please that everyone can then be clear on and follow.

    Mad world.
     
    #12388
  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,502
    Likes Received:
    56,381
    You could just try politely asking ??
     
    #12389
    dennisboothstash likes this.
  10. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,368
    Likes Received:
    14,230
    Every individual, every group, every sub group, every cause, every race, every ..... ?
    And then as far as I have seen, the goal posts keep changing, so .. every time?
    That doesn't answer it anyway, as I / we could be talking to just friends and acquaintances and they can get offended (on behalf of others they might know or might not even know) because we haven't used the right term of the day to describe someone else! Or just get over heard by a stranger.
    It's all got bonkers.
     
    #12390
    Newlandcasual2 and springtiger like this.
  11. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    19,784
    Likes Received:
    9,098
    Some don't like to or want to go to every Game ,
    Some have work commitments etc etc
     
    #12391
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2025 at 2:20 PM
  12. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    9,679
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    I've no idea why 'Gammon,right wing thug and Racist' are used as opposing insults either..
     
    #12392
  13. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011
    Messages:
    23,368
    Likes Received:
    38,173
    I agree about gammon.

    I think it’s fairly clear that thugs and racists are bad things though!
     
    #12393
    Jim the Tiger likes this.
  14. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    9,679
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    And exist on both sides of the political spectrum,both are intolerant cheeks of the same backside.
     
    #12394
  15. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011
    Messages:
    23,368
    Likes Received:
    38,173
    That’s not true though.

    You know very well that using the N word is offensive, and I think it’s very likely you would know that using phrases such as ‘darkies’ would be offensive too.

    If anyone chooses to use those then they are doing it deliberately to cause offence (I’m not saying you do…I’m just saying you do have some idea because you know that too)

    As for the difference between coloured people and a Person of Colour I’m less sure why it’s important but lots think it is so that’s good enough for me.

    Whilst I very rarely find the need to refer to a specific group like that anyway, as it’s unlikely I’d be stating anything generically about people purely because of their background, if I did then I’d use a phrase that most seemed happy with and if someone explained I’d used a phrase that in fact most found offensive I’d apologise and remember for next time.

    If it was someone I knew or dealt with regularly then I can’t imagine needing to refer to them as anything but their name, but if there was a reason I’d have either figured it out from things they’d said before or just ask them.

    It’s faux outrage to suggest any of that is anything other than simple
     
    #12395
    StubbDave, Help!, Edelman and 4 others like this.
  16. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2011
    Messages:
    23,368
    Likes Received:
    38,173
    Not the case

    Thugs do, but you specifically referred to someone as a right wing one.

    The opposite to being racist is just not being racist…the very opposite of intolerant
     
    #12396
  17. TwoWrights

    TwoWrights Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2013
    Messages:
    10,743
    Likes Received:
    15,102
    Gorgeous George's favorite saying. :emoticon-0138-think


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine l.
     
    #12397
  18. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    9,679
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    There are thugs on both the Right and Left wings of the political spectrum and there are racists on both the Right and the Left wing as well!!!
     
    #12398
    Gone For A Walk and TwoWrights like this.
  19. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,502
    Likes Received:
    56,381
    Blimey are you sending emails or letters to loads of people ??
    I’ll have to take a trip to driff it’s rivalling San Fran in its inclusiveness
     
    #12399
  20. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    9,679
    Likes Received:
    17,663
    Are we referring to Galloway? Total fruitloop but a wordsmith of some significance and a hard man to stifle in a debate...

    I salute your indefatigability:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #12400
    TwoWrights likes this.

Share This Page