As fans we are never likely to see the hard evidence of deal sheets / contracts the best we will ever get is 2nd or 3rd hand verbal information but never clear evidence. Things are confidential & covered by non disclosure agreements . You will be waiting a very very long time if you want actual evidence
We've had confirmation that the Barry deal was the issue for the transfer embargo and restriction. Nothing else has been confirmed relating to other football creditors, just speculation
See post 713 above from Rigsby which explains how it is. Yes, they are 'separate', but both stem from the same issue i.e. the 'debt' to Villa. The first issue: The payment has been resolved, hence the embargo lifted The second issue: ... but the technical fact remains that the 30 day period was exceeded (albeit Villa and City both thinking there wasn't an issue) hence the punishment remains (at least for now, but hopefully an appeal sees it overturned). Everything else (Blackpool, suppliers, whatever) has all been conjecture. Feel free to show us all anything that states clearly that there's anything other than the Villa issue, that isn't simply based on rumour, hearsay, etc
Has he? Are you actually certain? And Villa? Both City and Villa seemed to think there wasn't an issue.
You think I'm wronge (and I might and for that you can blame the HDM). I think you're wronge. That's fine with me I'll move and to hear more. As I said before your scenario would be much better all round.
We didn't pay Villa what they were due within 30 days so have been given the transfer restriction is how I understand it. What do you think happened?
Alive and kicking! The fat lady's not singing yet... https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hull-city-owner-acun-ilicali-10322327
TBF it could be there are two elements of punishment for the same offence. So a single incident of paying Villa 30 days late and that fee still being outstanding. By paying Villa we have removed the embargo but the restrictions remain as it was late. I think the article implies, I hope incorrectly, the are other late payments and we are answering for those too. TWT
I agree, but it’s just so hard to cut through all the ‘fog of war’ or whatever you want to call it and see how bad the issue(s) actually is/are isn’t it? At present the punishment doesn’t seem to fit the crime, and the noises from the club suggest that they’re confident of having it reduced on that basis, but you’d have to be pretty foolish not to wonder what magnitude of crime the EFL believes we’ve committed for that to be the (draft?) punishment in the first place. And it’s hard not to jump in with both feet. Like everyone else, I guess, I believe my opinion to be perfectly reasonable. My sheets are just fine, ta, but if anyone who is marginally more concerned than me is a bedwetter and anyone marginally less concerned is a naive Acun-apologist then it doesn’t leave those of us jumping to conclusions much room for manoeuvre as any facts actually become clear. Hopefully the truth will out soon and it won’t be as bad as feared, but I’m certainly braced for it to be.
I suggest the new HDM article pretty much confirms / clarifies that what me n Rigsby have been trying to explain is the case. (edit: sorry, our posts crossed) Now waiting for usual suspects to slate him for being a swinger on top of everything else.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podca...d-acuns-reaction/id1310519331?i=1000715860721 Barry Cooper and James Smailes come together to discuss the Hull City transfer embargo situation, with Barry having spoken at length to owner Acun Ilicali.