Shame on you schumacher

what exactly was it that " hill had to do " that was so different than any other driver on the grid at that time , dont you think other drivers in there respective teams were called upon to test there respective cars and relay the on track performance back to the engineers as hill did -- hill never did anything different than the other drivers that were called on for testing duties ,

as for my belief that the unfortunate death of senna helped hill in his career at williams , only a blind man would of been unable to have seen that at the time -

do you honestly believe in your wildest dreams that hill would have won his 96 WDC had senna been alive and hence still been at williams ---- thought not

lets look at the cold hard reality of it -- senna would have absolutely decimated hill thruout 94 and 95 , and knowing frank williams as we know him would he have even kept hill on after 94 let alone 95 --- very doubtful

but there is no doubt that hill would not have won his WDC in 96 had senna still been at williams , which is my logic in believing his unfortunate death was a big leg up in damons career and his 96 WDC win --

 

Yes I agree with that.
If I was an F1 driver I would have done exactly the same.
After-all they are your Employers who give you the job of driving their car, nothing more.

Edit
The cars legality, BTW.
Not Schuey's driving style.

 

So because a butthurt well beaten former team mate says it it must be true

 

think we can safely say he was in a position to know --

 

Hahaha, what a post!!

 

Look at the comment of mine which you quoted. Am I disputing anything you said?

You can rant all you like.

I'd have thought by now that you would know that I do not debate the hypothetical; and I am not discussing it in any of my posts in this thread; even including the one you've quoted!

 

The reality is... None of us know how Hill may have stacked up against Senna by the time 96 came around. Chances are that he may have lost out badly to Senna, But considering how well he developed... who knows what the influence of a driver like Senna may have had upon him. He may have become an even better driver than he did become had Senna still been his teammate. We'll never truly know.

 

Was he? Show me how. Does he understand the software code and language of the ECU used? Did he covertly tap into Schumachers ECU and discover what the FIA couldnt find? No he got served by Schumacher and it has left him bitter, same with Brundle, Irvine, Rubens etc

 

Who knows indeed…

Anyone who knows Hill will know that he had gigantic respect and admiration for his team-mate (Senna); and that Senna had gigantic respect for what Hill had done in terms of developing his own car even at the time of his untimely death. Senna knew that Hill 'knew his onions' and would rapidly become a force to be reckoned with. The tragedy is that we never saw them together after Hill's 'development' phase, which coincided with the awful tragedy we all know only too well…

 

In his first full season he wasn't totally humiliated by Prost either. He took 10 podiums with three wins and was only 30 points shy of Prost. In reality, he should have been well and truly put to the dirt by somebody of Prost's standing. It could have been even closer if not for the rookie errors. Blimey, I still remember burying my head in my hands on the first lap of Kyalami in '93. (I think it was the first lap when he spun out... It's been a while).

 

Yes.
Hill was undervalued.
Hugely. - Largely as a result of the Schumacher promotion mentality that existed in F1 at the time (and, to some extent, still lingers on to this day).

… No wonder Hill felt cheated. He was a far better driver (and racer) than popular opinion seems to reflect. Then again 'popular opinion' was to some extent 'manufactured' by the F1 process (which at the time saw Schumacher as its best marketing tool) itself!

 

Yeah.. it was the first lap... Gawd I'm getting old. Here it is:

[video=youtube;8gggI3kD_h4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gggI3kD_h4[/video]

He was looking pretty good up 'til then.

 

One other video, this one from '94 that gives a bit of the last race from Damon's prospective.

[video=youtube;PrT05_mGCkk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrT05_mGCkk[/video]


You have to say... Even now, Damon Hill is a top bloke! What a guy! He could have bitched, moaned and thrown the teddy out of the cot, but he was a gentleman to the end. Much respect, Damon!

 

Yes.

I still find it difficult to believe how naïve my friend (surely everyone's friend?) Murray Walker sounded during that Schumacher interview! At the time, I thought it was an act. But later, I realised it was really his dedication, professionalism and … yeah … actually, maybe his naïvety!

 

I think everybody has to love Murray. He's one of the few that have seen pretty much all F1 races in their various formats and is probably one the most unbiased people in the sport. He's as much of a legend as some of the drivers to me.

 

Schumacher a marketing tool?, Yeah I am sure he was Cosi.
Dear me.
A far better driver (Damon) ? He got served by Villeneuve mate, the only reason this has been brought up is because another one of the countless failed teammates of MSC's is being sour about getting his arse kicked on the track. Why are you trying to make Damon look the opposite of what he was?
The plus is he seemed to have a nice personality, but in F1 that counts for ****.
Schumacher did what others couldn't, pull something amazing out of the bag when it counted, and I am sure it won't be the last time.

 

Sorry Manny, that is one of the biggest loads of ****e I have read on here for sometime.

Hill beat Villeneuve, how did he therefore get served by him!?

Hill a failure!? Got his WDC, won teh first ever race for Jordan, except for a late mechanical issue he would have done the same for Arrows. Took it to Prost in his first ever season and had 3 wins taken away by late race failures that were out of his hands.

Getting a bit sour becuase there is a bad thread about your hero?

Grow up, I thought you had left the playground.

 

Seconded, this thread is a pile of gutter ****e.