WAR! What is it good for?

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My bad, I got sucked in to when I saw the word Harvard

 

Hamas are vile and counterproductive to the innocent people of Gaza.

 

They voted them in no?

So innocent is a stretch for me

 

I think that's a really hard hitting reminder to all those at the festival, a different day, a different time, that could have been you.

I was reading something yesterday, which stated how much they've had to beef up security at this event, some of it to avoid crushing

 

They have an onsite jail for anyone breaching the boarder wall.


Ain't that funny.


Do that Anywhere else in the UK and youll get put in a hotel

 

Yep. The reality is the vast majority of folk attending Glastonbury, at best are sympathetic to Hamas and at worst they support them.

They murdered people just like them. Chances are at least a couple of victims from that festival could well have rocked up at Glastonbury themselves.

 

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No.

You got sucked in when you saw a useful statistic which demonised Israel more than it is already demonised.

 

Again with the assumptions CK

 

There's an easy thought experiment which will determine the truth.

If you saw a tweet from let's say Harvard that claimed the number of deaths in Gaza are closer to half of the numbers being reported, and that of those close to 80% are affiliated to Hamas...

Would your gut instinct be to accept it and post it on here, or to dismiss it as false?

 

The Harvard name carries clout so I’d accept it.

 

The ‘innocents’ also randomly joined in the killing spree on October 7th when they realised they’d had a free pass to go on a Jew hunt.

 

By LUAI AHMED : "To those raising the Palestinian flag,

Where were you when ISIS was launched and beheaded tens of thousands of Arabs in Iraq, Libya, and Syria in the name of Islam? Why didn’t you take to the streets and raise their flags? Why didn’t you condemn the terror and call for a ”ceasefire”?

Where were you when Arab dictators and terrorists killed hundreds of thousands of Arabs in Syria and Libya? Why didn’t you take to the streets and raise their flags? Why didn’t you condemn the terror and call for a ”ceasefire”?

Where were you in the last decade when Saudi Arabia, backed by 8 Arab countries, killed 400,000 Yemenis, my own people? I didn’t see any of you take to the streets or raise the Yemeni flag. I did not see any of you condemning the terror and calling for a ”ceasefire” while Arab countries were slaughtering my own people.

This must lead to some self-reflection.

When millions of Arabs are slaughtered by other Arabs, you say nothing.

But when 7 thousand of Arabs are killed by Jews defending their right to exist, you revolt, you get angry, you storm the streets in the East and the West, you raise the Palestinian flag, you condemn the terror, you call for a ceasefire, you turn the world upside down.

Why is that?

Why were you so silent then but SO LOUD now?

Can it be that you are finally raising a flag and creating chaos because you only hate that the perpetrators are Jews?

Because you obviously don't care when millions of Arabs are killed by other Arabs.

Can it be that you storming the streets is just you venting out your hatred towards Jews? The same hatred we learned in our mosques and schools?

You speak of ”numbers and proportionality.” But by the rules of proportionality, you should not be raising Palestinian flags.

Unless, there is another agenda at play: Jew-hatred. Or as I would call it: Hatred.

 

It's because you're allowed to kill your own people, it's when you start killing other peoples that you start getting problems.

 

I actually understand that for the people involved. Not sure why that would matter to a British protester that has no skin in the game.

 

The big man who is too much of a coward to release his own name will have it done for him soon when he’s sentenced lol.


The BBC has said it should have cut away from a live broadcast of Bob Vylan's performance at Glastonbury, during which the band's singer led the crowd in chants of "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]".

In a statement issued on Monday, the BBC said: "The team were dealing with a live situation but with hindsight we should have pulled the stream during the performance. We regret this did not happen."

It comes after the broadcast regulator Ofcom said the BBC "clearly has questions to answer" over its coverage, and the government questioned why the comments were aired live.

The organisers of Glastonbury have previously said they were "appalled" by the comments, which "crossed a line".

On Monday, a BBC spokesperson said: "The BBC respects freedom of expression but stands firmly against incitement to violence.

"The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable and have no place on our airwaves."

A statement continued: "In light of this weekend, we will look at our guidance around live events so we can be sure teams are clear on when it is acceptable to keep output on air."

The BBC has previously said the performance had carried a warning on screen and would not be made available to watch on iPlayer.

The controversy surrounds comments made by Bob Vylan's singer - who goes by the stage name Bobby Vylan - during their performance at the festival on Saturday.

During part of the band's set, the singer also chanted "free, free Palestine" and used the expression "from the river to sea, Palestine will be free". Some use the chant as a call for Palestinian control of all land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, including Israel.

Critics say the slogan is a call for the destruction of the state of Israel.

That interpretation is disputed by pro-Palestinian activists who say that most people chanting it are calling for an end to Israel's occupation of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza, not the destruction of Israel itself.

On Monday, Ofcom said it was in contact with the BBC and had asked for clarification over why the comments were broadcast.

A spokesperson for the regulator said: "We are very concerned about the live stream of this performance, and the BBC clearly has questions to answer.

"We have been speaking to the BBC over the weekend and we are obtaining further information as a matter of urgency, including what procedures were in place to ensure compliance with its own editorial guidelines."

Bob Vylan are a London-based English punk-rap duo, who formed in Ipswich in 2017. They have previously performed at Reading and Leeds festivals and toured with the likes of the Offspring, the Hives and Biffy Clyro.

On Sunday, its singer released a statement on Instagram with "I said what I said" as an accompanying message.

In it, he defended political activism in general without referencing Saturday's performance directly, writing that is important for young people to see campaigners "shouting... on any and every stage that we are offered".

Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer branded the on-stage remarks "hate speech" and there has been cross-party condemnation of both the chants and the BBC's coverage of them.

Shortly after the performance, the government said Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy had pressed BBC director general Tim Davie for an urgent explanation.

Glastonbury's organisers have also distanced themselves from Bob Vylan's performance.

They said: "Their chants very much crossed a line and we are urgently reminding everyone involved in the production of the festival that there is no place at Glastonbury for antisemitism, hate speech or incitement to violence."

 

At this point the BBC should just change their motto to

"With Hindsight"

It's pretty much how all their decisions are made. After the damage is done.