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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Cesar Luis Merlo now says Racing Club have offered their bid for Alejo Veliz to $4m upfront and £3m in bonuses + a 30% sellon fee for 100% of his contract

    This is turning into algebra...
     
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  2. KingHotspur

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    Signed for approx £13million and likely sold for roughly half that without really playing at all. Poor poor signing
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

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    Less the signing, more the loans

    Sevilla barely played him at all, IIRC he played something like half an hour's football in half a season, while at Espanyol he played half a season's worth of minutes over a whole season - in no small part because he wasn't really suited to their system
     
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    Wasn't given much of a chance either, which seems to be a recurring theme with many of our youngsters.

    At the same time, we can well afford taking a few flutters every season on players in the £10-15m band. By far the more damaging are the big money signings who we all know well in advance are never going to live up to their price tag.

    But we generally have to get much smarter at selling players. We've sold just two players (Walker and Kane, both players we didn't really want to sell) for more than £30m in the past decade. Other clubs seem to be much more adept at getting top dollar even for their surplus players. If Arsenal can pick up £34m for Iwobi, there is no reason we shouldn't be doing better.
     
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    Yeah Spurs need to do better when loaning players out.
     
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    We've certainly been a lot better with our loans in the last couple of seasons, but on paper Veliz should not have been loaned to a La Liga team

    If we'd loaned him to an Eredivisie team we'd have probably seen his value hover somewhere in the £7-10m range with enough end product to tilt negotiations in our favour
     
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  7. KingHotspur

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    Ideally wouldn’t have signed him at all.
     
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    Veliz made sense given he's good in the air and has a good workrate, and given Ange's Plan B was to rain crosses into the area he was a good fit to be on the end of crosses from Perisic as well as hassling defenders

    But then Perisic got injured, soon followed by Veliz getting injured, and there was not place for him at all

    Sometimes **** happens, and Veliz got more of it than most
     
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    Do you dislike all lArgentinians ? No wonder Messi turned us down!
     
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  10. KingHotspur

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    Just the crap ones <laugh>
     
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    You don’t like Romero though. He is certainly not crap and we disagree about Lo Celso too
     
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    Tutto Juve claim we're opening negotiations for Georges Mikautadze

    Have the been reading this forum...?
     
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  13. KingHotspur

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    Romero’s decent but not available enough.

    Lo Celso was a disaster of a signing and was rightly loan out and then sold for peanuts. I don’t think I was wrong about him and Veliz’s Spurs career is over already by the looks of it
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    It certainly helps when certain clubs seem to throw money at specific team's ****e.
    Fulham take any old crap from Arsenal, who in turn do the same for Chelsea.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    Ugh, Zuckwit has ****ed around with Instagram again, so I can't check pages without being logged in - but when I'm logged in half the time the share post option doesn't so much not work as not exist unless I want to DM a post to somebody

    So, with that out of the way, I may be on my way to mix up my second Lazy Margarita of the evening after the amount of effort required to post...

     
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    And now it's Tifo Football's turn to do "sensible" transfers

    Let's see how much I can rip the piss out of the description this time...

    Attacking Midfielder
    Bilal El Khannouss (21yo, Leicester, contracted until 2028)

    Defensive Midfielder
    Manuel Locatelli (27yo, Juventus, contracted until 2028)

    Defender
    Arthur Theate (25yo, Eintracht Frankfurt, contracted until 2029)

    Alternates
    Mateus Fernandes (20yo, AM, Southampton, contracted until 2029)
    Kevin Stoeger (31yo, AM, A German Team, contracted until 2027)

    Locatelli and El Khannouss are the only actual sensible options given how riddled with PSR issues their clubs are, plus we have the Paratici Factor for the former

    Also don't think some of the suggestions are that sensible: El Khannouss et al are understudies for Maddison while Theate is basically Ben Davies if he was a CB, so neither are starters - and Theate is going to be pretty expensive for Mickey Van's understudy or an option to play asymmetrical FBs

    A CM would have been a good suggestion
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    Takai Watch
    ...literally, as Kawasaki Frontale vs Tokyo Verdy is streaming on the J-League YouTube channel at 10am tomorrow
     
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  18. KingHotspur

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    Doesn’t sound like any incomings are close at all. IMG_1988.jpeg
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

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    Kawasaki Frontale lost 1-0 and Takai played 90 minutes.
     
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