Fair point. You've been slightly less forthcoming with 'context' on behalf of Iran than Pinkie. My apologies. I am still waiting for your view on some pretty simple questions: Why did Iran build four secret nuclear facilities alongside its open programme? Why is it involved in the civil war in Sudan? Why is it involved in the civil war in Yemen? Why did it enable Assad to murder half a million Syrians? Why did all of the above happen around or during the time it had signed the supposedly wonderful JCPOA?
We’re all biased in one way or another. Stop trying to pretend you’re objective and fair and the person you’re arguing with isn’t. Leave that to the politicians
You're new here KH. This isn't the same beast as the pathetic echo chamber that is the Politics Thread on the spurs board. We go at each other hammer and tongs on here and it is largely wonderful. I revel in the freedom of speech my western government gives me. Sometimes things get a bit out of hand, mind, but that's why we have the most level headed and reasonable mod here to sort things out... @Spurlock
Where have I ever voiced support and joy for the Oct 7th attacks ? Show me one post This is just you windmilling now and hanging on the coat tails of CK because you can’t string an argument together yourself.
Okay give me the context for Israel slaughtering Nearly 60k civilians in Gaza. Deliberately targeting hospitals, schools, refugee camps, flattening whole neighbourhoods and now deliberately targeting people queuing for food aid. what context makes it okay for Israel to build settlements in the West Bank ? What context makes it okay for Israel to continually persecute an entire ethnic population for and make open their claims to want to displace another 2.2 million’s people presumably again with no right of return to their own land ? I’ve said that Israel had the right to defend themselves after the Oct 7th attacks and I said they had a right to go after Hamas, what YOU have failed to do on every occasion is condemn very clear war crimes, instead choosing to dismiss the organisations who were bringing it to the worlds attention. I’m clear that the Iranian regime is another brutal dictatorship, they persecute their own people as well as enabling it happen in other countries, and they have blood on their hands for sure. I hope they can be overturned, but not by foreign invasion and bombing which will simply destabilise the county and the region even more ‘doing the worlds dirty work’ as you put it. Let’s see you start condemning some Israel’s actions instead of trying to sweep it all under the rug, and rubbishing the organisations that highlight it Maybe people are so critical of Israel precisely because people like you aren’t.
Religion has been twisted by humans to justify the slaughter and persecution and excuse abhorrent behaviour Is that the fault of religion ? No it’s the fault of corrupt humans. At its core, religion gives people a moral code to live alongside people in peace, become the best version of yourself that you can as well as find your own spiritual connection to something bigger than yourself The problem is that people cherry pick certain parts of certain texts to try and justify their anger and rage and then religion as a whole gets blamed for the problem. The football analogy you used is a good one. Trouble happens at football matches, so football is the problem… As for atheism, my personal view is that people can develop the same moral code, compassion and understanding for others and live in peace whether they believe in a God or not, but again it’s about human corruption and the lust for power and control that makes people commit heinous acts.
Hopefully both countries’ leaders are on borrowed time. The best hope for the world is that change in both Iran and Israel comes from within, but in the meantime let’s not pretend either has the moral high ground at this point. Meanwhile Trump maybe even more of a threat, but hopefully a few dozen cheeseburgers will finish him off sooner rather than later. **** the lot of them, and let’s not pretend there’s an bounce of human decency among them.
Hitler wasn’t a Christian ffs. Stalin was when he was young though; he studied to be a priest for ten years.
I agree with your last paragraph…life experience has shown me that Athiests though seem to have their heads in the sand when it comes to some self reflection. They think they don’t follow a system of thinking, so they have cracked the code. Reality in my experience is that they think their thoughts can’t be pinpointed to a source so they think they are not corrupt, that’s absurd. They struggle with accountability and self reflection, most in my experience, I’m sure not all
