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  1. brb

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    I live today mate, not in the past. I can't help or change what went on before, but no way should we be allowing a bunch of pirates or cowboys control our shipping lanes, nor should we allow the continued hand behind it. There's times when we should keep our noses out, and times when we need to restore some order, in regards to Iran and it's military regime, that time is now for me. I don't expect you to agree and don't ask you to either, it's good to have two sides to story. I am what I am and I say what I see at any given time, and I saw a long while back these ****ers needed a slapping.

    Edit: Like I agreed with Spurly yesterday, I'd love us to be the Switrzerland of the world.

    Today's point... but sadly we are not and Iran were becoming a thorn in everyone's side, but no one had the balls to do anything about it unitl now for reasons explained by CK.
     
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  2. PINKIE

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    @brb once you’ve calmed yer tits, this is a decent (and brief) appraisal of the situation and how it might affect Russia. There are a few short term benefits for Putin (increased reliance on Russian oil) but longer term it weakens the alliance that Russia and Iran were trying to forge against the west.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w463pyj90o
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

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    Israel wants "regional dominance" but Iran is the one involved in five other conflicts in the region up to 2000 miles away from its own borders.

    Pull the other one.
     
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  4. brb

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    Iranian spokesperson on tv now, cut a long story short, it's a we did nothing guv, honest! Israel attacked us for no reason. This is the sort of bollocks that annoys we, they constantly think they can use word spaghetti and play on the goodwill of people who don't like conflict.
     
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  5. Citizen Kane.

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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    Ayatollah Khameini is about to give a live address.

    Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he begins his remarks with:

    "I would like to thank Ponkie and Fosse for their unwavering support. I hadn't imagined that even in sunny Cornwall and leafy Hertfordshire we would find people so very gullible, but there you have it. Death to Israel and the United States. Allah hu Akbar. Thank you."
     
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  7. PINKIE

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    lol, talking about gullible….

    I expect you still think that Israel are doing it to protect the world from Iranian nuclear weapons

    They both want regional dominance, and they are both as bad as each other. You can’t see it, because you’re blinded by your faith towards Israel, but that is the reality of what’s happening here.
     
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  8. brb

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    Russia have now cautioned America lol
     
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  9. PINKIE

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    Anyway, I don’t want to see US troops in Iran and I don’t want to see any of them killed.

    But this made me lol

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  10. Star of David Bardsley

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    I think it’s a lot more about stopping Iran’s chances than furthering their own. They’ve made great strides with the serious countries in the region over the last few years which have held up reasonably well in the last 20 months. Is there really a chance of Israel having dominance? I can’t see them being that dedicated to something so out of reach but neutralising Iran is sensible and benefits the allies they do have around there.
     
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  11. PINKIE

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    I think Iran having nuclear weapons is a bad idea. But I also think Israel having them is also a bad idea. Israel don’t declare their nuclear warheads so there is no oversight over it, but they have them.

    I don’t think this is about nuclear weapons though, if it was, they would get back around the table and get the nuclear deal up and running again. People say ‘oh but Iran were in contravention of the enrichment quotas’ yes, but that’s not evidence of building a bomb, that’s evidence that they were building up leverage because Trump canned the deal.

    I would also add, where is the nuclear inspectorate for Israel ? There is none, because they do not allow them in, they are not signed up to the non proliferation treaty and they do not declare their nuclear capabilities. Yet Israel represent a real risk to Iran, Lebanon, Palestine, Syria and potentially to any other country that they deem to be an ‘enemy’

    I’ve said it before, but there seems to be a bit of misunderstanding from some on here. I have zero sympathy for the Iranian regime, they are inhumane dictators and I would like nothing more for the people of Iran to have a change of leadership, but the US and Israel’s plans will just lead to more conflict and destabilising the region further.

    This has all the hallmarks of Iraq all over again, and I’m surprised that people just can’t see it.
     
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  12. Welshie

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    Homegrown regime change in Iran is just as likely as a US lead invasion tbh.

    The regime in Tehran is not a wholly popular one.
     
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    Amen ...
     
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    Donny the Blimp getting pelters from Republicans now...
     
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  15. Citizen Kane.

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    A recent poll showed that 56% of Americans would prefer a diplomatic solution over conflict.

    Just over 50% view Iran as an 'enemy', a further 25% view it as 'unfriendly'.

    41% disapprove of Trump's handling of the situation.

    The poll also found that 100% of Americans can't locate Iran on a map.
     
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  16. brb

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    I think a diplomatic solution would be ideal in most situations, but I don't feel very diplomatic towards Iran. It's always words to make out they done nowt wrong, playing on the weakness of the West in regards to fairness. The military regime in Iran is an evil one, everytime they or one of their proxies poke their heads up we should slap it back down again, it's the only language they understand, hit their military hardware time and time again until they get the message, weaken their capability, not to rule or invade them but to tell them and all those that serve under them we've had enough of their games.

    Everytime a rocket goes into Israel we should hold Iran accountable in the strongest of terms, if they really want diplomacy a ceasefire to all activities, including the disruption of ships in the Suez needs to be part of anyway forward. Everytime that diplomacy fails we take out another piece of hardware. As Trump has said, would you strike Iran 'I may, I may not' - this really is Iran's call if they are serious in diplomacy rather than being a brutal regime. I want peace as much as the next person, but not on Iran's terms.

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    Sorry but I'm not feeling very diplomatic at the moment, ask me again tomorrow.
     
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  17. brb

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    Anyway, own up who's is the Arsenal sock?
     
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  18. Solid Air 2

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    yeah it would make sense for Israel to nuke Gaza and the West Bank <laugh>
     
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  19. PINKIE

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    They’ve already dropped more bombs on Gaza than the equivalent force of the nuke dropped on Hiroshima

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  20. Citizen Kane.

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    It's not the "equivalent" though, is it? Given that the casualties in Hiroshima and Nagasaki totalled over 4x as many as those from the "equivalent" in Gaza.

    Scientifically and militarily, one has nothing to do with the other.

    This is even more irrelevant than making a headline out of:

    Southampton scored the equivalent number of goals across the whole season as Liverpool did before December.
     
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