Again… This is blatant antisemitism. What!! The Jews done well, there must be a mistake… Never seen this before on Eurovision because a country done well.
Course it is ... rightly so ... but it ain't gonna be Jordanians killing it, will it? ... the people that fire the bullet, missile, rocket or whatever kills the child will be the ones 'directly responsible' - unequivocally... and if that's Israel / IDF it certainly ain't 'anti-semitic' to condemn them for it ...
Jordanians are sending a baby into a war zone where there’s a high possibility it’s going to be killed. Jordan could keep the baby in their country and it lives. They aren’t Jews tho so I understand why it’s not their fault…
So nobody was hit. Nobody was injured. A warning shot because they went off from an approved route. I fail to see what Israel have done wrong here apart from being Jewish.
Sure mate ... once again whoever kills the baby is responsible ... very easy to avoid that ... and pointing that out is not 'anti-semitic' but is definitely anti needless deaths of women and kids...
Other than deciding who can go where and when in a sovereign territory that is not Israel? ... and where they have no jurisdiction under International Law?
OK ... so anyone pointing out that killing women and kids is totally abhorrent or that Israel should have no presence in the Palestinian territory known as The West Bank means that they are obviously 'anti-semitic' ... well that now includes the Governments of the UK, France and Canada ...
To be anti-semitic I would have to have an irrational and unbalanced dislike of Jewish people - I don't. I would have to believe that Israel has no right to exist - I don't - I have always fully and unconditionally supported Israel's right to exist and indeed to protect its people and its' borders. Now can you spin both of those around and confirm that you would be in support of both of those things for Palestinians? Now there may not be a handy equal and opposite term to "anti-semitic' to throw at anyone who does not support such things for Palestinians... but prejudice is prejudice, whatever hat it wears or flag it waves.
Seems very important. Spain’s PM saw fit to make a statement on it when he can barely keep the lights in his country on. Eurovision voting has always been a joke. The system as it is now is always going to benefit Israel so it’s vital it’s changed. Nobody has cared before when it benefitted others. I must reiterate it’s very important.
If you haven't grasped by now - my views are very much my own and I weigh up every bit of news available to me or from conversations with people on both sides - I'm not blinkered or entrenched and take little at complete face value - I do believe that there are more good people in the world than evil ones and I guess that makes me an optimistic thinking humanitarian ... which, however naive that might be, I'm happy to remain.
Well yeah but your view is clearly heavily influenced by propaganda and blood libel even after your no doubt meticulous analysis. We’re all going to have a degree of confirmation bias so no point pretending you’re somehow above it.
Post what I think mate - nothing more or less - and although I was just a kid in the 60s - have lived through a good part of the conflicts in the middle East and indeed Vietnam... another conflict I took a huge interest in ... and which also opened my eyes...
I agree with your take on it. I can't get my head round that story, that the Jordanians sent a baby back into a war zone, if I'm understanding this right. Surely it would be entitled to refugee status - could you imagine if the UK did something like this...this thread would go into full on meltdown. It would be like someone saying we should send a few Ukranians back home to where the drones are dropping, because you're not our problem anymore. Tell yer we got a few people in prison who could probably be sent back to their country of origin, but they got human rights or something.
Yes, eyes which read propaganda like that 14000 babies nonsense yesterday and decide to run with it. People with enormous platforms chose to run with it too so you’re in good company.
Frankly, it's ridiculous ... and smacks of both sour grapes and an agenda ... that said, with the technology available today it should be one vote per phone etc - any **** desperate enough to want to vote more than once should have to go and buy as many ****ing burners as they can afford
Unequivocal on this - any 'foreign' nationals receiving jail sentences should be deported to country of origin ... no exceptions.
