WAR! What is it good for?

I've lost track of what's gone on in here, but something I don't think I've said before because I'm not sure how true it is, but couple of years back I remember hearing that the EU funded water pipes into Gaza...

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For the past seven years, however, the EU has spent millions in installing water pipes to improve the supply in both Gaza and the West Bank. But a Hamas propaganda video from 2021 showed militants in Gaza digging up water pipes and using them to help make rockets, thousands of which have been fired at Israel in recent days.

Loads of different media articles on it, go choose whatever one you want: https://www.thejc.com/news/world/eu...aid-to-gaza-in-wake-of-hamas-attacks-ybupi7w7

Soon as I saw this it made me aware the sort of people we were dealing with. So when people state on here about famine or no water or attacking hospitals, I remember stories like this and that Hamas are burying themselves within the infastructure.

Many people also seem to have forgotten I said we shouldn't be allowing them back to the ruins, we did and now they are suffering because of it. All the problems we've got now is all the problems I said would happen, a logisitical nightmare.

I've got no issue with Palestinians but they do need to see who their real enemy is, not because of land but just so they can grab a stanglehold hold in the Middle East...Hamas...who will stop at nothing to achieve that aim, no matter what devastation it brings on the people they are supposedly fighting for.

I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but the longer people avoid condemning the real problem, the longer people will suffer. I saw the Hamas leader interview yesterday, and when asked if Hamas would step down, the answer was 'some' and to me that means none.

 

I view this as like a looping problem, it's like two things feeding into one another isn't it.

Israel is not going to go away, those days are over. It's a major international political player, has a huge economy, a modern infrastructure and a fast growing population, whilst Israel isn't leaving, it's ability to apply massive pressure on it's area of influence is becoming harder and harder to stop politically and militarily so that spawns a resistance group, a resistance group cannot possibly stand head to head with the IDF so they resort to the typical tactics which in itself gives the IDF a packaged excuse to do what it is doing, realistically if they can have enough supporting voices worldwide for their war crimes they can continue them as long as they like.

Republican voters, for example, don't give a **** about Gazans.

Look at the reaction from Israels neighbors. Lukewarm condemnation at best, I think that's very telling that Saudi Arabia views Iran as a bigger problem than Israel.

I personally think Hamas is a terrorist group and they run what is an armed dictatorship in Gaza, it's undeniable. But it doesn't excuse the IDF war targets either.

 

We also cannot forget that Israel is one of the middle eastern countries that almost certainly possesses nuclear weapons.

 

When Israel pulled its people out of Gaza about 20 years ago they left behind a load of glasshouses to help growing crops or some ****. Valuable infrastructure. Obviously all got smashed up.

 

The area is ****ed, I saw bulldozers on the news this morning bringing down any buildings that remain standing in whatever area of Gaza. They need to look for a way out but will Hamas allow them to do that, or are they happy for Palestinians to face famine just so they can incur the worlds outrage.

 

The Jewish space lasers do the trick. Someone on Twitter claimed Israel had the technology to make weapons that only killed Palestinians and would leave Jews unharmed.

 

I think many of these Hamas fighters will be trying to flee to Lebanon in an attempt to join up with Hezbollah.

 

Only those who can’t get a council house in Fulham.

 

'Operation Gideon's Chariot' otherwise known as 'Goodbye to the remaining live hostages' is under way ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7geg3lvz1o

Even the US are getting cold feet ...

Apart from no food there is plenty of food in Gaza, says an Israeli spokesperson... makes you wonder why they are bothering with private company Israeli / US controlled aid convoys then?

 

I’m yet to see a frail person in Hamas uniform.

 

Hamas official last night, clearly suffering the effects of famine...

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South London accountant vibes but brown.

 

Israel are good at naming operations "Gideon's Chariots"

 

Not a question of agreeing... it's a fair post with some good points ...

 

Again, a fair point ...

 

Terrorists gives them too much credit, they're just gangsters and all this is just a grift. Neither side really wants peace either, just more eyes and teeth to add to the collection.

 

@Horny 4 Hamas when he sees you've quoted an article from the Jewish Chronicle.

 

This is a misrepresentation of who and what Hamas is and why it came into being.

You've described the PLO very accurately, but not Hamas.

 

Fair enough

 

Austria beat Israel in the Eurovision.

Old Nazis beat the New Nazis.

Mazal tov.