1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Transfer Rumours Summer Transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Bucky1989, Feb 6, 2025.

  1. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,261
    Likes Received:
    35,968
    He’s the one player I really want us to sign. He done well up there previously in a poor side and if the worst happens - we’ve then got the best midfielder in the league IMO
     
    #2541
    Scout73, clockstander and Southern A like this.
  2. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,783
    Likes Received:
    45,801
    In my fantasy "who I'd sign from the championship" earlier I forgot the 3 relegated sides.

    With that in mind I'd probably also look to maybe sign Aaron Ramsdale to be our number 1, Wout Faes for CB and maybe Wilf N'Didi for DM
     
    #2542
  3. JimHeron92

    JimHeron92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2025
    Messages:
    1,653
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Was the third division of Denmark, but yeah definitely risk
     
    #2543
    SourPatch2 likes this.
  4. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2024
    Messages:
    7,452
    Likes Received:
    19,858
    Would try and stay clear of Championship signings if we went up personally. Don't think it's good value and they rarely seem to work. It's fine if you are an established PL club, like Palace signing Wharton/Eze/Olise, because they are then surrounded by quality players and they can develop slowly to the level. We'd be adding Championship players to a Championship squad.

    Hamer is good but I wouldn't want him if we went up. He'd cost £15m at least, you can get a high level Ligue 1 or Bundesliga player for that.
     
    #2544
  5. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2021
    Messages:
    10,057
    Likes Received:
    26,151
    Mr relegation I’m too superstitious for that :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
    #2545
    Southern A and JimHeron92 like this.
  6. JimHeron92

    JimHeron92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2025
    Messages:
    1,653
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Been trying to think about what transfer strategies have worked for teams that survived that first season in recent years, definitely isn't championship players.

    Brentford kept almost the same XI so that's a slight anomaly, forest a lot of old premier league pros and some French/German signings that were alright.

    Loads of different strategies have worked but the recent trend of exclusively championship players I can't remember working once
     
    #2546
  7. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,783
    Likes Received:
    45,801
    Completely agree you can get much better value players on paper from other leagues but there's the risk premium. Obviously every transfer carries risk but signing players you've watched play in the league does have an associated value to it.
     
    #2547
    Robertson and SourPatch2 like this.
  8. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,261
    Likes Received:
    35,968
    N’Didi has a £9million relegation release clause…
     
    #2548
  9. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,783
    Likes Received:
    45,801
    Yeh to be clear I wasn't saying we should be signing all those players, or just those players. Purely saying they're the ones I'd happily take. I'd want it supplemented with well scouted players from abroad.
     
    #2549
    JimHeron92 likes this.
  10. alcoauth

    alcoauth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Messages:
    3,467
    Likes Received:
    5,079
    #2550

  11. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,427
    Likes Received:
    4,182
    You've named literally an entire starting 11... sorry but if we're planning on regularly starting all eleven players from a team which couldn't even make the top 3 in the Championship, we would get battered week in week out in the Prem.

    I do think all of them are "good enough", just, but they are all very much "bottom tier" players. So, three or four of them may be fine, but we would need to improve the other 7 or 8 positions.

    My choices as "regular starters" if we get to the Prem would be only Jobe and Enzo. Maybe Neil, Mundle, Mayenda at a push, depending on development. Everyone else you've named should be bench options at best, imo.
     
    #2551
  12. CR17

    CR17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2023
    Messages:
    5,154
    Likes Received:
    10,834
    Most of our players are getting premier league clubs looking at them and potentially offers, of course most will start
     
    #2552
  13. MadMackem77

    MadMackem77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2024
    Messages:
    3,333
    Likes Received:
    7,659
    Please do not sign from the championship.

    the value is abroad. Look at the price we get le fee for

    if our scouts do their job properly and get a good look in Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands, France. Etc we will get better calibre hidden players for much cheaper

    compare Jack Clarke price to le fee price for example

    this is where promoted teams fail. Most promoted teams look in England for their signings ready for the championship if anything. Don’t do it
     
    #2553
  14. MadMackem77

    MadMackem77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2024
    Messages:
    3,333
    Likes Received:
    7,659
    Not in one team though cam. They’re all prem ready and will fit in an established prem team but we go up and start them all together we struggle
     
    #2554
  15. JimHeron92

    JimHeron92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2025
    Messages:
    1,653
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    #2555
  16. CR17

    CR17 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2023
    Messages:
    5,154
    Likes Received:
    10,834
    I can't see this club going up and dropping the likes of Hume, Cirkin, Ballard etc from the get go mind, still young plyers with a high potential that will no doubt improve by the time the season starts. We wills ign quality i'm sure but they aren't going to throw the likes of those away to the sideline and not give them a chance
     
    #2556
  17. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,783
    Likes Received:
    45,801
    Again, not saying sign all players from the Championship. But I think if you can get the right deal for a player like Hamer who has already delivered in the premiership, its worth paying a slight premium versus players we've scouted from abroad who might work.

    Because to date, I'd say probably half of our signings from abroad from this recruitment team have failed. Pembele, Rusyn, Ba, Aouchiche, Xhemajli, Bennette, Hemir, Aleksic (so far), Samed.

    There's value abroad but there's also challenges settling, some won't work.
     
    #2557
  18. JimHeron92

    JimHeron92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2025
    Messages:
    1,653
    Likes Received:
    2,784
    Aye don't worry I know you weren't, there definitely is value in the championship as well as abroad.
     
    #2558
    Southern A likes this.
  19. alcoauth

    alcoauth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Messages:
    3,467
    Likes Received:
    5,079
    One of the reasons promoted clubs sign young British players is because they often retain their resale value and it's easy to find another buyer, for example Jack Clarke has done very little for Ipswich this season but they could quite easily make their money back on him this summer if they needed to raise funds quickly.
     
    #2559
    TheBronzeBummer and Southern A like this.
  20. Downeys Loup

    Downeys Loup Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2020
    Messages:
    531
    Likes Received:
    1,647
    Really be surprised if we sign more than 5 players for in and around the first team if we go up. Been building a squad over several years now, not just first team. Not going to throw that out the window and block progression for the younger players. We all know Speakman has a plan and I suspect some will not be happy come the end of the window.
     
    #2560

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 40, Guests: 0)

  1. JimHeron92
  2. Bucky1989
  3. Jackie Chan
  4. Joel Harvey
  5. Manc Mackem
  6. TheTruthWillOut
  7. 7Mackem78
  8. Robertson
  9. Tongester55
  10. Juan4754
  11. SAFC CLUD
  12. Chog
  13. Durham Wasp
  14. LeeBarryCattermole
  15. Palm1
  16. MadMackem77
  17. SISAO33
  18. Daz
  19. APC
  20. Foster92
  21. Chucky Puddin
  22. Dunder Mifflin
  23. Repswick
  24. Mentalist1973
  25. Chadm93
  26. Bigmackem
  27. Modern Leper
  28. CR17
  29. Quayside Mackem
  30. Wilka88
  31. J Flash
  32. Indiana Durham
  33. darthmixalot1
  34. Lee Barry

Share This Page