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Benedict Arnold finally speaks.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, May 5, 2025.

  1. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Maybe living in a different country from your birth has expanded your view on your personal identity. :bandit: When I've been abroad, or even elsewhere in these isles, and asked where I'm from my answer is always Liverpool. I'm proud to say it. Obviously I'm all the others you mention, English etc. but they aren't big in my self identification. I don't 'feel' European but I do feel scouse. One of the best things about coming home from holiday is hearing the scouse accent. You know you're home. I don't feel as home hearing an English accent as I do hearing scouse.

    I think the view that the Union flag is somehow right wing and/or divisive is ridiculous. It's like Evertonians not liking anything coloured red, as if it's only connotation is with LFC. We don't own the colour red and they don't own the colour blue. They don't seem to realise that they are giving us some sort of power over them that doesn't actually exist.

    I think it's easy to identify in direct opposition to someone else and feeling very proud while doing so and still have the best of relationships.
     
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  2. The IncREDibles

    The IncREDibles Well-Known Member

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    It is funny how you had to look pretty hard in certain channels of the media to find out about Salah winning player of the year, but the booing of trent has story after story dedicated to it.
     
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  3. saintanton

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    I think people the world over are just people. There's good and bad and all points in between everywhere. No one ethnic or regional group has any claim to be better than any other.
    I'd have thought that - as football fans - given the global nature of the game and the cosmopolitan composition of the teams we watch, we would be in a good position to have an appreciation of our common humanity.
     
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  4. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all of this.

    Do people really think that one nationality or race or religion etc.is better than the others? I regard them as just different. You can be proud of being from one country without that being seen as you thinking you're better than all the others surely.
     
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  5. Gerrardsitchyear

    Gerrardsitchyear Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, its all bollocks.

    I also think its bollocks when fans, even ours, say things like "he's the best midfielder in the world" or they're "the best CB partnership in the world" when they don't have a ****ing clue about other players across Europe let alone the world.
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I like seeing fans say things like that because even if I don't agree, I admire people's passion. Best Midfield in the World was one of our best songs :)
     
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  7. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but that was faktual :bandit:
     
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  8. saintanton

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    It's just a fan thing. How many no-mark teams' fans sing "by far the greatest team...etc"? They know it's not true, but got to support your team.
     
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  9. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I've booed our players a lot this season. Spineless ****s have deserved it <laugh>
     
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    Or maybe not...:)
     
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  11. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I support them too and tbh our support has been excellent this season given the circumstances. Much better than they've deserved frankly.

    A lack of effort is unforgivable though, especially when you're earning that sort of money.
     
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    Ungrateful sod - you should be cheering them on. They're taking all this flak and they only did it for you because they know you hate the PL.
     
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    Agree 100% with this. I can accept people not being good enough, but not trying just isn't on.
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    <laugh> well played.

    They could have done that while still running themselves into the ground and not shipping 5 at home to the likes of Brentford though.
     
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  15. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Exactly. We've been ****e basically my entire life so I'm more than used to that. I still expect millionaires to give 100% though when fans are paying through the nose.
     
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  16. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    So, Trent was not only there - it was all about him. Hope Real paid for it all. <eek>

     
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    No, the exorbitant price fans pay to follow their team is what pays for it.
     
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  18. Neither here or there

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    Imagine being given media trained and having advisors to foresee what public opinion maybe like if they didn't put out the correct message. Seems to me that whoever was advising them didn't read the room or have a notion about what happens when you say one thing but mean another (captain the club for example).

    Klopp leaving also likely impacted this decision just like vvd and salah running down their contracts.

    Madrid has the pull of trophies and his buddy is there. Obviously better buddy than Robertson now that he would leave him behind .

    There was a better way to play this out and at the end of season probably was his least damaging but choosing to announce after us lifting the league appears to fed into the ego as some mentioned.
     
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  19. Neither here or there

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    Southampton should be passing their many parachute payments onto the fans now that Liverpool stopped poaching their players for a good while.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Trent can't really say "sorry lads, I'm off for lots of money and easy medals and real have promised me a nomination for a golden balloon if I sign"

    His statement was always going to come across as not the real reasons.

    The stuff deliberately left in at the start to try and make it look authentic just made it worse.

    He was better releasing a letter than a video and better doing it a year ago or on may 27th
     
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