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Finally are we all SR out?


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I also think they have to have been approached by someone as none of the timings make sense. Why bother hiring Spors and changing manager and directors if you are just going to leave a few months later? Even if they are just testing the water as some are indicating it makes no sense.

I think an interested party has come forward and they are just posturing about a price
 
Aren't they also riddled with debt though?

Guess it's tough to get a real valuation of any club these days.

The £400m left Everton with “greatly reduced debts” apparently so a chunk of it went to that. Have to factor it into the purchase price though. If we were sold for £125m then I’d expect our debt to just roll over to the new owner
 
That's ridiculously cheap. Buy the club, sell Ramsdale, THB, Dibling, Downes and Fernandes. Money recouped. Free football club.

It's not ridiculously cheap if all the money that they've "put" into the club is loans and other shady business ****wittery. Any money that's been put into this club sure as **** hasn't been from their own pocket. As I've always said these lot couldn't give 2 ****s.
 
From when Solak appointed himself chairman three months ago:

"I feel completely at home here and I'm as passionate as ever to make this successful, I will do everything possible. That's why I decided to assume the chairmanship, I show everybody that I'm going nowhere and will do everything to make it work."

Think this rumour is just idle chat in a slow period, tbh
 
As I’ve said all along all I care about with an owner is how much they spend. Gao kept us up but on the decline year after year due to no spend. The absolute ceiling with him was finishing bottom half in the PL every year. The floor was much higher as they were terrified of relegation because of the financial impact so did all they could to just keep us up. If we had gone down it sounds like we would’ve been royally ****ed.

SR ceiling is higher (maybe somewhere around Europa League places if every comes together for a season) but, as we’ve seen, they weren’t afraid to take risks which could (and did) lead to relegation. They weren’t as bothered by it as Gao would’ve been as they had the financials to get us back up, whether that be by selling players who they bought for large sums or Solak putting in a wedge. So the floor is lower as well as we are far more likely to get relegated than under Gao due to these risks.

personally I don’t want to be a bottom half PL team with not much chance of progressing with an owner who sells to buy every year, that is boring as **** for what is ultimately meant to be something we enjoy. I’d much rather have an owner who will splash the cash and give some sort of hope that we could be fighting it out in the top half, knowing that the risks being taken could also see us drop of out of the league. If we do drop out we should be in a good spot to come straight back due to the owners investment and we can try again.

If we are to be sold, if it’s someone with money to throw in and fancies pouring in a load to try and make us a solid PL side again, then great. If it’s someone taking us on just because we look cheap/fancy running a club but not got much money for a club owner then I’d rather stick with SR.
 
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Yeah if we're really unlucky we can end up with totally amateur absent foreign owners who only see our club as a means to make money. Even worse we can get ones who haven't the first clue about running a PL team but decide **** it, they'll buy clubs in France and Turkey too. That'd be horrendous. Hope we don't get one of those
For me, the owner of the club isn't the issue, it's the turkeys that he's had running it. They had good footballing pedigrees on paper, but haven't worked out. If he can get someone decent running the club then it could be a great success. He's always backed the club with good investment. The thought of a sale sends shivers down my spine. The chances of us landing on our feet with an amazing new owner, who would invest to the same level are slim. Better the devil you know, than a Sisu you don't, in my book!
 
And SR are entirely to blame? We were in decline way before they came along.
We have been in slow decline since NC was removed and the ownership thought a failed ice hockey coach was a good replacement... Koeman gave us a temporary stay of execution and Ralph did his best, but for me, the decline started with NC's departure - like him or loath him.
 
For me, the owner of the club isn't the issue, it's the turkeys that he's had running it. They had good footballing pedigrees on paper, but haven't worked out. If he can get someone decent running the club then it could be a great success. He's always backed the club with good investment. The thought of a sale send shivers down my spine. The chances of us landing on our feet with an amazing new owner, who would invest to the same level are slim. Better the devil you know, than a Sisu you don't, in my book!

I agree with this. Solak has not been tight with the purse strings, just in-experienced in the getting the right people to manage the club. He trusted his investment with people that let him down He's since actively changed things in an effort to protect his investment and get things going in the right direction. A good business person learns from their mistakes and grows. You don't become the second* richest person in your native country by being an idiot!

*credit wikipedia :-P
 
We have been in slow decline since NC was removed and the ownership thought a failed ice hockey coach was a good replacement... Koeman gave us a temporary stay of execution and Ralph did his best, but for me, the decline started with NC's departure - like him or loath him.

NC had the enviable job of getting a relative 'sleeping giant' back on its feet, with a bigger budget than most of the competition.

An excellent managerial recruitment with Poch, but NC's time with us in the Prem was really too short to be holding him up in such high regard.

No doubt he would have made bad decisions sooner or later because of the ruthless nature of the Prem.

If SR had taken over a League One club, they would have quickly earned success at that level.
 
Things can change I guess, but not sure why he’d bother stepping in and making the changes he has recently within the club to then decide he wants to sell before seeing if that bears fruit. He’s also seemed pretty committed when he has spoken in interviews, and like he was becoming a fan.
At first glance I agree but it could be any number of reasons. There could be some sort of personal issue we don't know about.

Or perhaps he was originally told by Kraft and Ankersen that running a football club would be fairly easy and Spors has recently sat him down and told him they were very wrong, our squad is bloated and full of players not good enough for the Premier League and if he wants us to be a Premier League club again he'll need to accept sizeable transfer losses on a lot of players just to get them out of the door and then spend a load more money buying better players, all with no guarantee of success.
 
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Aren't they also riddled with debt though?

Guess it's tough to get a real valuation of any club these days.
Presumably that purchase also includes the new £750m stadium.

But football club valuations are weird. Similar to what you said before, our squad of players is apparently worth more than the club that owns them as well as a stadium, training ground, merchandise store etc
 
As I’ve said all along all I care about with an owner is how much they spend. Gao kept us up but on the decline year after year due to no spend. The absolute ceiling with him was finishing bottom half in the PL every year. The floor was much higher as they were terrified of relegation because of the financial impact so did all they could to just keep us up. If we had gone down it sounds like we would’ve been royally ****ed.

SR ceiling is higher (maybe somewhere around Europa League places if every comes together for a season) but, as we’ve seen, they weren’t afraid to take risks which could (and did) lead to relegation. They weren’t as bothered by it as Gao would’ve been as they had the financials to get us back up, whether that be by selling players who they bought for large sums or Solak putting in a wedge. So the floor is lower as well as we are far more likely to get relegated than under Gao due to these risks.

personally I don’t want to be a bottom half PL team with not much chance of progressing with an owner who sells to buy every year, that is boring as **** for what is ultimately meant to be something we enjoy. I’d much rather have an owner who will splash the cash and give some sort of hope that we could be fighting it out in the top half, knowing that the risks being taken could also see us drop of out of the league. If we do drop out we should be in a good spot to come straight back due to the owners investment and we can try again.

If we are to be sold, if it’s someone with money to throw in and fancies pouring in a load to try and make us a solid PL side again, then great. If it’s someone taking us on just because we look cheap/fancy running a club but not got much money for a club owner then I’d rather stick with SR.
Isn't that the problem though? Even if we got that owner, we are restricted by PSR. The way SR have tried to do it is to increase the clubs turnover. I have limited knowledge of PSR but isn't it the case that if the owner wanted to inject **** loads of cash, the restrictions would not allow it?
 
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