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'End of virginity' if women drive

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Sam Axe, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    40%?
    Where did you get that figure from?
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    no need for a link when you have produced it we can take it to a neutral, islamic studies guy at Oxford for example who is a Jew by the way, to see if it has fulfilled the basic criteria
     
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    ALMOST 40% its actually 39%. 31 being athiest and the other 8% agnostic

    google it
     
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    Another lie.
    Not very Islamic.

    You seem to be under the impression that I read everything that you post, for some reason.

    As I've said, as you fail to say who the fella is and Jesus returning to the Earth is part of Islamic prophecy, I don't have enough information to answer the question with any degree of certainty.

    There seems to be some debate as to whether a Muslim woman can marry a non-Muslim man, as long as he's one of the People of the Book.
    The Quran prohibits marriage to polytheists and allows marriage between Muslim men and female Christians or Jews, but doesn't seem to address the reverse.

    Feel free to point out anything that would contradict that, though.

    No.
    You'll never agree with anything that I post that seems to be a contradiction, so what's the point?
    You've already accepted that it's flawless, so you're not open to the possibility of it containing any flaws.
    It would undermine your entire faith.

    Wrong.
    I've repeatedly stated what I do and don't believe, but you choose to think that I really believe something else, for some reason.

    I haven't failed to answer any question.
    That part that I quoted there didn't even contain a question from you.

    Where do I get the two branches concept from?
    Perhaps I should have used the word sect or denomination?
    Nation of Islam and Shia.

    It exists.
    If you would like a more specific answer, then please ask a more specific question.
    That's immensely vague.

    Genie is another word for djinn.

    What was Satan?
    A myth.
    What are genies in the context of what?
    Islam?
    In my opinion, another myth.

    What does 'nor like the speech of soothsayers' mean?
    I understand the rest of it, though I'm not familiar with the sixteen al-Bihar.
    They're different styles and timing of poetry though, aren't they?

    That's a hypothetical person.
    This challenge has been attempted before, I assume.
    Who tested it in the past?

    The figures for that come from a site that has Norway's atheist population down as 31%-72%.
    That's quite a range.
     
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  5. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Quite right. Wearing tents should be the fashion for all women. Well, the ugly ones certainly.
     
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    http://quran.com/5/5

    This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
     
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  7. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    To be perfectly honest, I couldn't give a **** about it.
     
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    You like many others are conflating culture with religion.
     
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  9. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    The question is why the hell not?
     
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    So your saying Muslim hos ain't got no rights? yo thats messed up holmes i oughta pop a cap in yo ass.

    On a serious note your point is completely ****ing ******ed, how its fair for men but isn't fair for women just shows how far back in time you muslims are, **** your faith and allah/mohammad i **** in their shoes.
     
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    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    I could. But the ****e talked here is just as funny.
     
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    The pressure upon Muslim men to marry Muslim women is cultural.
    They're not prohibited from marrying Jewish or Christian women, as it expressly states that it's allowed in the Quran.
     
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    I support this theory <ok>
     
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    Dont know what site you speak of, look at Israels own demographics
     
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    Its been a while but i think now would be an appropriate time to post some muhammad bomb pictures.

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    If you read the quran passages and the hadith and commentary that goes wit it you will find that it is indeed allowed for muslim men to marry women of the book without them reverting to Islam, But look at the passage that PNP has quoted


    And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers

    It wouldnt necessarily apply to the women today. In fact do the people of the scriptures that came before even exist today?

    Women definately cannot marry a non muslim though, of that there is no Islamic opinion to suggest otherwise taken from quran or sunnah
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

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    They're also filled with answers.
    Unfortunately a lot of your questions are either vague or nonsensical.

    I clearly got that part.
    You offer no other description of who 'the fella' is, though.
    If he's the returned Jesus, then the man could well be a Muslim.

    There are passages forbidding women leading prayer.
    Where are the passages prohibiting Muslim women from marrying a Christian or Jewish man?

    The original post wasn't about religion.
    My original comment to you was to clarify what you meant by something and to point out an obvious contradiction in something that you'd said.

    Precisely.
    You use the Quran as the basis of your knowledge.
    If I provide something from it that appears to be contradictory, you'll go to the part that says that it can't be and work from there.

    That's your opinion.
    I would say the same about most religions.
    You'd say that's my opinion.

    What about that was semantic?
    You asked me a question that was so vague that it was meaningless.
    What do you want to know about existence?

    It's a westernised version of the same word.
    The French were the first to use it, apparently.

    Religion affects everybody.
    Knowing about it doesn't mean that I secretly believe in it, as you seem to think.
    That's a standard theistic defence, which attempts to undermine anyone who presents an alternative view and blocks dissent.
    You've written about underage girls. That doesn't necessarily make you a *****.

    Is your memory so bad that you can't remember that I started saying that in reply to you doing the same thing?

    I know what a soothsayer is, but I'm not sure what the passage means.
    Could you clarify it or don't you know, either?

    Who is he then and what makes him especially qualified to judge these things?

    There appear to be no objective standards, so any 'failure' is purely opinion.

    According to who?
    Where have you got this statistic from?
     
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