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  1. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome Forum Moderator

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    No but I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall at that discussion, seriously!
     
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  2. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    So you think the phone footage of ambulances with flashing lights being hit by artillery fire is a secondary fact supporting rather than evidencing a medical convoy with flashing lights coming under artillery fire? OK ...
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

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    No.

    Read my post again and come back when you've understood it.
     
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  4. brb

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  5. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    You asked for responses to your Question 2 - you got one - indeed, paraphrasing your wording ... if that's not clear ... try and improve your writing ... or your intelligence...
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    Good grief.

    "Ambulances with flashing lights being hit by artillery fire" isn't mentioned in my post as it is primary evidence and agreed - very important.

    Counting the precise number of bullets, which direction they travelled in, how many tyres they hit and a whole litany of other irrelevant detail is secondary to this as it does nothing to address or answer the salient question: Did the IDF deliberately target a medical convoy, or not?

    Once the answer to that question is 'yes', it doesn't matter if one bullet was shot or a million bullets. Either way the same number of people died who shouldn't have, and the IDF must be held accountable.

    Do you understand the difference yet?
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    What I love about this particular forum is the abundance of members who tell you you've said something you haven't said, and then criticise you for not understanding their point about the thing you didn't say.
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

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    Sure - glad the realisation hit eventually - how the BBC covered it is pretty irrelevant as it does not change any relevant facts - and it certainly should not detract or deflect in any way from the wilful disregard for the sanctity and safeguarding of medical personnel and the obvious attempt to cover up gratuitous murder ...
     
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  9. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    I love the easy to use navigational panes ...
     
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  10. Citizen Kane.

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    How the BBC covers it is very relevant as they consistently use disproportionately more public funds to investigate Israel's actions than any other country on Earth. By a factor of four if my calculations are correct. If it didn't cost anything, agreed - it isn't relevant. But the BBC is using our money to pile on needless items of evidence and analysis to an already arrived-at conclusion, yet applies zero of the same standards in the other direction.

    I agree with the bit in bold, and have stated multiple times my criticism of the IDF both in their actions and in their handling of this incident.

    My comments from the outset were never meant to divert attention from what the IDF did, rather to focus attention on how the BBC have handled this incident.

    It is a shame Pinkie and Solid hijacked my comments from the off and misconstrued them as such.
     
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  11. brb

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    I was looking through various news stories via google on my phone, nothing in particular but it was fairly obvious from the random stories, some which would of been topics it recognises I look at, but what was evident was they were all clickbait. It didn't matter what the story or who were publishing it, it was clickbait to try and get you on it. The BBC sadly also fall into that same territory, even local papers do it all the time. My point being, that whilst we criticise social media a lot the Western Media are no different, I'd say they are just as bad as various social media outlets. The point of all that, don't believe a ****ing thing you read, anywhere by anyone, question it all and if you do believe it, chances are it's why the story was fed to you, because you refuse to doubt it. The mathematics of computer science commonly known as algorithms.
     
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  12. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    The BBC are a left wing organisation. The left wing will try and muddy the waters by saying they believe they’re right wing. It’s a deflection tactic. I’m yet to see any evidence of the BBC paying people to set-up prominent left wing people. There’s evidence of them doing exactly that to prominent right wing people.

    It’s been obvious since the start which side the BBC are supporting.

    Anyways, it’s a fast moving environment out there, it was probably just an oversight/mistake by the IDF shooting that ambulance up. I believe that was the excuse that was used and accepted on here when Hamas returned the wrong ****ing corpse.
     
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  13. FosseFilberto

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    <laugh> ... guess it's easy to mistake those very conspicuous flashing emergency lights and sirens for a late night Mr Whippy Ice Cream convoy...
     
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  14. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    There's not a single impartial news source in the UK. They all have their political slants.

    It's why I would make life easier for the average person by completely scrapping that ****ing TV license fee. Essentially a tax for owning a ****ing television.
     
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  15. brb

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    Hope you had a nice holiday Saf?
     
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  16. brb

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    <laugh>

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  17. Citizen Kane.

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    Sheikh Al-whippy, where the suicide vests come with a free flake.


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  18. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Yeah, I had a great time. Thanks. I stayed an extra few days because I’ve managed to get myself a bar out there. I’m going back in about 6 weeks to renovate and reopen it.
     
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  19. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    Exactly <laugh> Just an every day mistake like killing someone and then scooping up the wrong body when it’s time to return them to their family.
     
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  20. PINKIE

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    Your comments haven’t been hijacked or misconstrued. Your constant obsessing over the BBC analysis about numbers of rounds fired is nothing but a distraction from the actual issue about the IDF deliberately targeting medical workers.

    This is why you haven’t had answer to whether the BBC have covered a similar incident about numbers of shots fired in another conflict, because it’s a non question in the context of what they were reporting.

    As I’ve mentioned, there seems to be a pattern emerging with you; that whenever an organisation uncovers an Israeli atrocity, you seem to pay little regard to the actual issue that’s being highlighted and instead concentrate on trying to denigrate the organisation doing the reporting.

    That is a classic class of deflection.
     
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