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Peter Gulasci

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by smidgen, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    How do you work that out? He sits on the bench on match-days - if he were not capable of playing we could have invoked a emergency loan. The fact is that even should Basso now be 100% available, the run of games that Gulacsi has enjoyed makes him the form keeper. (Thats a statistical fact, rather than a flippant opinion)
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    Basso is unable to kick a ball, he's on the bench because if push came to shove, he could come on and save most things, without actually being able to kick the ball into play. If Gulasci were to get injured, I'm sure we'd invoke an emergency loan, as even our third choice keeper Oxley is yet to return from injury.

    Gulasci is our keeper because we haven't got anyone else, I hope he continues to improve, but he's not first choice, he's the only choice.
     
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    Waits for someone to tell me I know **** all about football....
     
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    I was watching him kicking a ball to Adebola last night.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    I know, someone should have told Gulasci that Dele wasn't actually playing. :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  6. Eskimo Bay

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    Haha, I was trying to get a bite. Well done, sir!
     
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  7. Fez

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    No way is he on the bench and unable to be able to do the basics required and that includes some kicking. fair enough spot kicks can be delegated, no-one is questioning that, but your stance is too rigid. kicking or throwing most balls into play will be within his current capabilities. emergency loans have been invoked for scenarios less critical than the one you paint. What information do you have that allows you to say that Gulacsi, at this time, is not first choice? New manager, new approach, inspired GK - things change.


    . . . . . do you? :undecided:
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    A member of our coaching staff who says Basso breaks down when taking goal kicks and is not fit to start games. The same member of our coaching staff who says we're looking at one of three keepers to sign in January to rectify the problem, those being Harper, De Vries, or Kirkland. What information do you have that he's being picked for any reason other than we have no-one else?
     
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  9. Carmine Galante.

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    De Vries played 81 times for Telstar.

    Wonder if that was Telstar Club in Branny Senna ?

    If so then I more than impressed.

    Sign him up !
     
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  10. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    On Balance from what I have seen Basso would just get the nod, purely from an experience point of view. However Gulacsi does appear to be growing in confidence, so playing him will bode well with our relationship with Liverpool for any future loans, as any manager does not like to see players sent out on loan to get experience, and then just warm the bench. Coop's as a prime example.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    Unfortunately, his trial for them was unsuccessful and he had to sign for the other Telstar instead.

    Though on the plus side, he still has wheels on his car.
     
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  12. tigerman11145

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    Anyone who the coaches are that we're bringing in?
     
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  13. Fez

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    1. His form; it has drawn plaudits from outside of the parochial Tigers forums.
    2. My experience, limited as it may be, tells me that he would not be benched unless he is capable of contributing without further harm. With the amount of cards we carry outfield, it would have been far more sensible to make a loan. I think the extent of his incapacity is not quite as bad as you paint; although he certainly has a problem.
    3. Now, you say that Oxley is injured; but he is out on loan anyway – so not an option. Basso is walking wounded – he is benched, but not an option to start. Gulacsi is our only keeper, let’s accept that simple statement; flawed as it is. How do you measure your form GK? If the one who is playing is doing a good job (and improving) then I reckon that counts as form and that is the only claim I have made.

    Of course we are looking at other keepers; Oxley has been a wet dream, Basso is past it - going forward, to have competitive option, we need someone in - to challenge our form goalkeeper - Gulacsi.

    My remark against the Gulacsi derider was well made - his arguments were naive and vindictive. When you throw them back at folk you should bear in mind an old saying;

    If you keep your cannonballs dusty, make sure your powder is dry!

    On his day, Basso is the better GK - but will he have another day? I would have as coach over Prudhoe any day. :emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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    They're mainly Acklams. <ok>
     
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    I'm not entirely sure why we're having this debate, as I think we both agree that Gulasci had his best game for us last night and Basso is actually a better keeper, but what the hell, here we go...

    1. I'll ignore this one, as it was nothing more than a petty snipe.

    2. Your experience does indeed seem to be limited, though fair play to you for recognising it. Basso is capable of coming onto the pitch and doing a decent job, he's just carrying a niggling injury that makes him a risk to start and limits his kicking ability. Considering the fact that we both actually think he's the better keeper, I think it's also safe to assume that he'd start if he was able, unless you think Barmby isn't as clued up as we are. Though anything's possible in football, it's a funny old game(apparently).

    3. Oxley has been suffering from a back injury, but is due to make his return shortly, he isn't out on loan, neither was he supposed to be out on loan, but don't worry about it, I'll put that one down to your limited experience.

    So, in summary, Basso is carrying an injury, Oxley is coming back from injury(and isn't out on loan), so Gulasci is our only first choice fit keeper available(unless you fancy trying 17 year old Joe Cracknell?). It's fairly easy to be the form keeper, if there is no other keeper, I'm sure you'll agree.

    As for old sayings, my favourite was always the ancient Chinese proverb 'Never start an argument, on a topic you lack knowledge, against a man on a two wheeled Italian vehicle'. <ok>
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

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    Actually, scrub that, just checked with Oxley, not going to be back until next year. <ok>
     
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  17. PLT

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    Well we paid quite a fee for Mark Oxley considering he was still a youth player at the time, so you'd think he was quite good, but he's been nowhere near the first team and it's been 3 years now. I know he's had an injury lately but you have to wonder if they have any confidence in him at all.

    EDIT: Just seen the comments about the extent of his injury. I should have remembered the ancient Taiwanese proverb 'Read the full thread before posting.'
     
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  18. carmen newell

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    Tendonitis is awful. I had it at a pre season and got the all clear the following March! Scary thing is the doctor said that there might be a possibility that my knee locks. If it does dial 999 straight away. not to be taken lightly.
     
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  19. PLT

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    Also the name of it is stupid. It's spelt tendinitis, is it anything to do with a tendon? :S
     
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  20. Fez

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    Over the years I have enjoyed fair banter on threads, but rarely have I experience such patronising comments from a moderator. Let me address your issues:
    You call my description a petty snipe? I would invite you to read through the full mix of the posts on these threads and fairly argue that there is not a parochial bent to the content &#8211; it would be wondrous, but disappointing if there were not. It is not a petty snipe; just putting comments into context, as it is always good to get positive comment from pundits other than those in your own backyard. Nothing critical &#8211; it was complementary to Gulacsi, not detrimental to posters in general and undeserving of your narrow opinion.
    I thank the pot for his patronising appraisal of the kettle (lol). Your assessment of Basso&#8217;s injury seems to have mellowed &#8211; by this time tomorrow he may just be in contention for his country! I do believe that Basso has been the better GK &#8211; but current form makes Gulacsi the pick; like I said semantics. Of course, it may be possible that Barmby is not as clued up as you are; but then again I would think your coach contact will not share his views so candidly with Nick!
    Oxley is a non-starter in this equation. I accept the mistaken comment about the loan &#8211; I have not followed him as he has failed to be noticed. I put it down to my limited experience of following no-marks; and let&#8217;s be candid, Oxley needs to move on to be anything other.
    I have accepted Basso&#8217;s injury; my point has been that if Basso were fully fit now, would Barmby replace Gulacsi? I do not believe he would nor should &#8211; you say he would as you seem to be all knowing. At least you seem to have assimilated the notion of form keeper!
    You need to work on your proverbs.
     
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