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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Our very own Laksmi Mittal is deciding which country should have the benefit of his presence as he doesn’t wish to be taxed twice on his overseas earnings as is proposed under the new non dom rules, even after they have been watered down.

    A large part of me thinks good riddance but of course if enough of the uber rich follow suit (apparently as of January 12 billionaires and 78 centi millionaires had already left since the election) then the policy fails (as had been predicted anyway by IFS etc). The top 1% in terms of wealth contribute 29% of income tax revenue (which is the governments biggest income stream). If this number falls I suppose the rest of us have to take up the slack somehow.

    Reeves’ growth rhetoric in the context of soft core capitalism which is what I guess Labour represents is coherent but her policies have the reverse effect. It’s just rhetoric.

    Looks like liberal democracy is struggling to cope with the range of challenges it faces. Weird scenes insides the goldmine.
     
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    Liberal democracy is under threat from all sides. Hard to see how it survives.
     
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    Semantics only when it suits the left wing supporting labour luvies........ If the Tories had pulled that stunt the left wing labour supporting luvies would have been apoplectic with rage.....
     
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    Tories taxing businesses? Why would left wing 'luvies' be upset by that?
     
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    They're not just taxing business's are they as Stan pointed out earlier.....
     
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    I make it £1.45 a week for a basic rate taxpayer.
     
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    It seems Starmer is now seeking an 'Economic Guru' as cracks appear in his relationship with Rachel from Accounts. So many economists panned her original budget and have been proven right, it can only be a matter of time before she is replaced.

    On the subject of employers NI contributions an employee working 8 hours a week on minimum wage of £12.21 an hour would be subject to the employers contribution, hardly an incentive to have part-timers and many who can only work up to 16 hours a week before losing benefits could now be caught out costing the government if they are laid off. It really is the economics of the madhouse...
     
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    One thing about Reeves's Spring statement that hasn't had much attention is the proposed crackdown on tax avoidance. All governments say that they're going to crack down on avoidance, but what Reeves proposes will have real teeth, going so far as to criminalise the whole avoidance industry. This is good.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Stroller said:
    But this government hasn't put tax up for the average person.

    Which is it
     
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  11. Wherever

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    Guess
     
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    Tax Avoidence is legally exploiting the tax legislation to to reduce tax liability..... Tax Evasion is when a person or company escapes paying tax illegally.....

    So is Rachel from accounts going to close loopholes or is she going to crack down on Evasion?
     
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    Thanks for that clarification <doh>. As I think you probably know, there's a whole industry of tax avoidance 'advisors' whose schemes border on illegality. Reeves's statement shows real intent to both close loopholes and prosecute people whose advice is found to have crossed the borders of legality. Surely you must approve?
     
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    Sure.... but firstly what the tax advisors are doing isn't illegal, might be immoral but If it doesn't break the law it can't be criminalised and if Rachel from Accounts does manage to close those loopholes do you seriously believe that more tax saving schemes won't be thought up? Plus it will take a long time to rewrite the tax legislation and to pass it into law.....

    Now if she gave HMRC more powers/staff to crack down more on tax evasion, then that's a good thing and should be applauded, but isn't she talking about reducing civil service numbers to save money..... things really don't add up.....
     
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    They're talking about effectively criminalising the tax avoidance industry....

    Spring Statement sneaks in the biggest crackdown on tax avoidance in decades - think tank

    This is serious, and welcome, stuff.
     
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    One for Stroller...

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    Should we respond to Trump's tarriffs? Yes, but not by imposing our own tarriffs - just stop buying their ****. Get off X, get off Facebook, don't use Amazon (buy direct from the supplier), boycott Starbucks, MacDonalds, all of them. Buy British, European, Canadian, even Chinese instead.

    **** USA!
     
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    Just smashed my TV watching some **** named Sebastian Gorka on Newsnight. Horrendous man.
     
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  19. kiwiqpr

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    at least you wont have to look at him again until the new chinese internet tv arrives
     
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    uk seems to have gotten off lightly
     
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