It might not qualify under international law as genocide, but none of it is ‘acceptable’. 74% and possibly more of the 50k + dead are innocent civilians, bombed in their own homes. They were then told to move to ‘safe’ zones and bombed again. The IDF have targeted homes, schools, hospitals, hospital workers, journalists, mosques and the aforementioned ‘safe’ zones. There are credible reports of IDF soldiers deliberately shooting children, targeting civilians trying to return to their homes and a culture of shoot who you want, there will be no reprisals When people try to use cold abstracted ratios to try and justify the killing, it removes the context of how and in what manner these people were killed. It is an attempt to rid themselves of their moral conscience and to fall back on some notion that it’s all okay, when it is a ****in million miles from being okay.
And this is why Israel’s attempt to ‘destroy’ Hamas will never work. Because all the while they kill Palestinians, there will be another generation of radicalised youth who will take up the fight. The only solution to this is a Palestinian state. I’m all for the nipple rubbing though
A Palestinian state will not solve the problem mate, you are deluding yourself. Either Israel or Gaza has to move, I know people don't like to hear that but decades of war has shown, they can't live together and they will always be trying to exterminate each other....sad but that's the human race for you. Otherwise carry on mate, because we will not live long enough to be proven right or wrong either way.
20 years of peace. I think if you can have 20 years of peace- all the atrocities become distant memories. Everyone will have a grandpa who can't let go of what the other side did, but a generation will grow up wondering what all the fuss is about and for those that lived through it, they will just be distant bitter memories. I think if there is some way to maintain peace for 20 years- history becomes history... and whereas they may not be "friend-states" the propsect for long-term peace is better. There doesn't need to be a forever-solution now... there just needs to be a solution for long enough that a new generation who hasn't been trying to kill each other can talk together with calmer voices on a long term solution.
The reality is that nobody is moving. You have around 7m Jews in Israel, around 5m Muslims in Palestine and a mixture of Arab Jews, Christians, and Muslims who live in Israel. The vast majority of these people do not want to exterminate each other, but extreme factions that have been allowed to fester due to the lack of resolution over the Palestinian equation has led to atrocities being met out from both sides. The Palestinian people have a right to self determination, forcing them to move and handing over their land to Israel will likely lead to decades more conflict and bloodshed. The security that Israel seeks will never be realised unless they work with the Palestinians to establish a Palestinian state. Like milk says, peace needs to come gradually and it will take time, because you have generations of trauma to overcome. This means that in order to establish a lasting peace, there will be bumps in the road, but that should not sway people from the goal of peace.
Palestine has a non-negligible Christian population too. All the Palestinians I know personally are Greek Orthodox.
Yeah, reread my post and it didn’t quite come across, but that’s what I meant. There are Christians living in Palestine too. Where Jesus was born innit
Yes, but just his legs below his knees and his arms below the elbows- and a little nibble on the voicebox. Like to see what he thinks of DEI and supporting the handicapped once he has fewer limbs.
oooohh.... a little munch on the penis so he can only be the receptive partner and he'll have to swing the other way. (not sure it works like that, but anyhow)
Well 20 years of peace got well and truly bum ****ed. Lots of kids minus a few limbs who are never going to forget for at least half a century, and they will have kids who will see the physical reminders daily of what happened to their parents. Would I forgive and forget, never. Plenty of martyrs in waiting for the next opportunity. Crass, but that's the scars this war will have left behind, I don't even need to take a side to know the future will live the consequences of past events. But everyone can carry on kidding themselves if they want, I suppose that's what hope does to some. How many centuries do we need to go back to learn how humans behave.
Anyway, in other other news, the evil UN are mobilising forces to send aid and rescue workers to Myanmar to try and locate survivors from the earthquake
Reset the counter back to 0. This is totally a real sign and not one I created with AI. All correct spelling in American English.
Tickled my dark sense of humour when on the news they said 3 dead and 90 missing, and I sat thinking, yeah those 90 missing are construction workers that were inside that big building that just pancaked.
JD Vance apparently accidentally snapchatted this to a journalist in Greenland, not sure what to make of it.