Just because I was bored, some stats showing points earned and goals scored and conceded per player in the starting 11. This is team related not per individual performance.
Impossible to draw too much Aski as you say from the fact that there are different combinations of players (eg are our stats with gruev away from home good because he was good or because he usually played with Ampadu?) and it obviously depends on quality of opposition particularly given the relatively small number of games. Having said all that…the tanaka/rothwell partnership that everyone loves because they’re very tidy on the ball, has underachieved away from home repeating myself here but from day 1 Farke has talked up what tanaka and rothwell offer on the ball but that we lose something defensively with them. He’s happy to describe Ampadu as his most important player. you could say that the stats back that up, certainly with regard to home v away. With gruev/amps playing, Is aaronson even in his own box to give the ball away for the opener last week? (He leaves his man to pick up a runner you’d expect one of your midfielders to be picking up instead of ball watching in the box) Do QPR get the completely free header for the second? Probably not in my view.
It's why I didn't comment too much, the stats are interesting without being to insightful. Defensively, the stats are skewed by 4 results. Anyone who started the 1st game of the season against Portsmouth will struggle to look too impressive, as we conceded a 3rd of our total goals at home in that game. The away games against Swansea, Hull and QPR count for half of our goals conceded away from home. Both Tanaka and Rothwell were our starting midfield combination for those games. So did that combination/ system contribute to the amount of goals conceded or is it just a case they were the unlucky ones chosen to play in such games, where mistakes elsewhere led to us conceding. It's a good point you make about the QPR game, one that I had not really thought about.
Agreed... especially the bit where you mention my good point Not sending you off another expedition but i think we typically field more shots against us with the tanaka/rothwell partnership away from home, whether we leak goals or not. I like both players, we look better going forward but we're more vulnerable.
Lol, as if you didn't know that is precisely what I would do after reading that Anyways just for you Milky (colour coding is only there to make it easier to distinguish for comparison, plus White for Home games, and Yellow for Away games seemed sort of satisfying, and of course our 3rd strip for all games ) Again all the information below relates to the team that started the match, and does not refer to individual player performances Table deleted due to labelling error (corrected table posted in follow up post) And the below stats are related to any game where one of the 4 midfielders played no matter what the combination. Table deleted due to labelling error (corrected table posted in follow up post)
I’m so obvious Outstanding colour coordination where do your stats come from fella, the ones above blow my theory (about tanaka/rothwell being poor defensively away from home) out of the water. But when I look at bbc site for their games together my maths says 9 shots per game conceded?
I get it from a combination of sites, Fbref, SofaScores, WoScored etc, and I will just average out any differences between the sites, ie Fbref says we had 21 shots, but whoscored and sofascores say 20 , then I record that as 20.3 shots. Whilst there is always a difference between sites to some extent or another, overall they are pretty much the same. I checked the BBC data against my own and found 4 differences. 1 was due to a typing error by myself in relation to the Hull game. The Luton and Sheff Wed home games, the BBC reported 1 more shot on target for the opposition than I had recorded, where as for the Blackburn away game, the BBC reported 1 more shot attempt than I recorded. However perhaps the most obvious issue between the data I provided and your expectations, is that I got the column headings mixed up for Shots conceded and Average shots on target taken Here's the corrected tables, the data itself was correct, but the two headings that are highlighted in bold had been trans-versed
thanks Aski, whilst the differentials are small i'm glad at lease i have a statistical analysis to support my rambling assertions
