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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    And where were they supposed to go ? Rafah has been bombed, Gaza city has been bombed

    only in deluded Trump’s mind were they ever going to be housed in luxury in Jordan

    Reality is they are sitting targets for bloodthirsty madmen
     
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  2. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    No chance, we both said weeks ago that it was only a matter of time before Israel went in again and how unhabitable the place is. I’d have had my kids away banging down countries borders or even going through traffickers if I needed too. Anything to not go back to that hell hole.
     
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  3. brb

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    They were already in the care of aid services when they made the long trek home, it would have been far easier to get aid to where they were than all spread across Gaza.

    For what reason would any man want to take his family back there....unless the man had other intentions with guns under his bankets.

    You only want to look at one side of it, if I was Palestinian why would I want to move closer to Israel knowing there is a raving lunatic that could bomb me at any moment.

    They set themselves up to be the sitting targets, I did say they shouldn't be going back. Sections of Gaza have just become a no mans land.
     
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  4. brb

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    Exactly mate.
     
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  5. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    They did have a choice, it’s not like they can use the argument of that’s where all their stuff is. There’s **** all left of the place, everything is gone.

    I still don’t know what gaslighting means. I refuse to look it up, sick of all these new words <laugh>
     
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  6. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    All aid going into Gaza was stopped by Israel over two weeks ago mate. And Gaza city is no closer to Israel than Rafah is in the south. The strip is only 10k wide and all of it is well within easy reach of any Israeli weapons.

    I’m not sure if you’re suggesting that people retuning north were doing so because they were carrying guns up there ?
     
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  7. brb

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    Clearly something has upset Netty, so there must have at least of been a perceived threat.

    Obviously you are not going to tell me that threat, because you have an agenda. The guns under blankets was tongue in cheek, as I honestly don't know.

    Would I have returned with my family, no chance. Ffs mate you ran away from London for a better life and you weren't even being bombed. :bandit:
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    What was the choice ? Get bombed in the south or bombed in the north ?

    Gaslighting means blaming the victim for their suffering claiming they brought it on themselves, in an attempt to allow the perpetrator off the hook
     
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  10. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Netty wants war mate. It’s that simple.

    And his very existence as Israeli leader rests on him appeasing the far right war mongers in his coalition govt.
     
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    Ok mate, so let's say for one minute, that I agree with you on this.

    Now knowing this, why would you return?
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    You could have made it more interesting by saying I escaped from London on my 3k bike to run away from the bubble gum ice cream pikey kids <laugh>
     
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  13. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    return to northern Gaza you mean ?

    The same reason people return to their homes after war, fires, floods, etc. because it’s their home, even when their actual houses have been destroyed.

    Not saying you are, but blaming ordinary Gazans for their suffering is just plain wrong. It is Israel who are responsible for their suffering.
     
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    SKY were running a documentary in Syria yesterday, reporter visiting ISIS prisoners. They also went to a refugee camp, where the kids were threatening to cut off their heads lol....the world is ****ed mate, you are looking for answers where sadly there will be none, well not of a rational nature that would bring peace to all.
     
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    Just watching the astronauts finally splashing down in 9 mins after nine months up there....I thought the bloody parachutes weren't going to open for a moment there.
     
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    yeah I saw something similar a while back. Kids lobbing stones at reporters and making the 1 sign of ISIS.

    Thats a different issue from Gaza, but what’s happening in Gaza shows you how people get radicalised and then want to join a group like Hamas.

    Not saying it’s right, but can you blame them, when they are seeing their loved ones and homes being destroyed by Israel ?
     
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    Using coal gas lighting instead of electric lighting

    Or woke for taking the piss
     
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    You regularly argue that Hamas didn't come into existence in a vacuum, and that it is important to take into consideration the wider history and context.

    You also argue that Israel's far right came into existence in a vacuum, that history and context is irrelevant, and that it is therefore - and I quote - "it's own dark shadow to try and overcome and they are entirely responsible for it."


    Your blindness to your own double standards is staggering.
     
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    There it is again.

    Because apparently people have joined the Israeli far right in huge numbers over the past 10-15 years entirely coincidentally and with zero contextual explanation.
     
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    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    And I regularly condemn them both.

    so get to **** with your double standards.
     
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