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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Fulham

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Mar 14, 2025.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Who'd take it now, though? Nobody decent, in my opinion. Certainly not anyone doing well elsewhere.
     
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  2. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I doubt whether Iraola would be interested anyway but the opportunity for someone to take over now, with a serious chance at the Europa League, no distractions and 0 expectations for the league, I think a lot of managers would be more interested in that.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That's our sixth consecutive loss before an international break, apparently.
    Hard to tell if that has any meaning though, as we've lost so many games! <laugh>
     
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  4. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Personally I think that goes for the summer. It's gonna be Nuno Time again if or when he's sacked.
    The season finishes in mid/late May.
    Bournemouth will could be in a European competition place and if not they'll be giving their manager money and time to continue building so he ain't coming IMHO.
    Same re Brighton and Fulham.
    Pochettino should not come back but he'll not leave the US job until after the world cup.
    We will be scrabbling around (again), before appointing someone late, giving ourselves no real chance to improve the squad and round and round we'll go again.
    Why would anyone come to us if they know they'll not be given the players and time to build.
     
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  5. RRich

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    It’ll all be fine when he get all our players back


    Said someone
     
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  6. BinghamSpur

    BinghamSpur Well-Known Member

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    I'm not even sure he'll go in the summer.

    I can't come up with any logic or reason why, but I just have the feeling that unless the squad seriously turns against him he'll be there come August.....
     
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  7. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I don't think most managers are any more likely to take the job in the summer than now. Are we really expecting to get a manager who's challenging for titles elsewhere currently? Real Madrid might change manager in the summer, maybe CIty, we're not exactly in a position to compete for the calibre of manager they'll go for anyway.
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    Without the relevant statistics across the PL teams you
    cannot say (although I would not bet against a new < standard > ) .
     
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  9. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    There isn't the same infastructure to build on at the clubs you mention. If Iraola doesn't leave Bournemouth it's because he's waiting for a bigger job, they'd be in the exact same position as Brighton have been with getting their best players poached and then rebuilding again. Success for them is achieving similar results each season whilst selling their best players.
     
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  10. SarrMan

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    I think managers like Frank, Iraola etc will be more likely to take it in the summer. I know people will say why they would they take it but one bad season doesn’t make us more unattractive than Bournemouth or Brentford etc.

    The manager will have more funds to improve the squad than at said clubs, our ceiling is a lot higher plus the standard of some of the players we have is very high despite how they currently look.

    We’d be a great fit for any midsize club manager showing what they can do and looking to move up the ladder.
     
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  11. KingHotspur

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    Mason > Ange though.
     
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  12. Roo

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    Every premier league game between now and the end of the season will be like this.
    There’s literally nothing to play for.
    It’s a bizarre situation. If we were fighting relegation we’d see more effort, even if we were still to lose. But every game means sod all.
    At this point, it’s a total waste of 2 hours+ of a weekend watching the match.
     
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  13. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think anyone expects Spurs to be competing with Madrid or City for anything let alone managers.

    The summer represents a clean slate and other managers will be able to have a summer transfer window and pre season instead of coming in and having to take this mismash squad and play 9 league games etc
     
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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    If we win the EL I don't think he'll go, but I do think we will be on the phone to Poch with an aim to bring him back after the 2026 WC and sack Ange before the final year of his contract.

    If we don't win the EL, there is no conceivable way he can keep his job. This will end up being our second or third worst season in PL history.
     
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  15. LockStock

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    The delusion is strong amongst us fans. We are not as good, player wise, as many think.

    As long as the CB pair is temporary gaffer tape, we will be cannon fodder for PL teams, regardless who the manager is.

    All of the players are not fully fit as some are claiming.

    Danso and Drăgușin are injured and happen to both be centre backs.

    Davies and Gray will never be the CB pair that move us up the league.

    Romero and Van De Ven are clearly still being reintegrated in stages.

    Many fans hounded Conte out with his boring play, but it'd take a manager with that level of rigidity to get anything near better result with this bunch of players, and even then, we've gotten rid of most of the players that made that viable for him.

    We are witnessing what happens when you ask for change, get it, but can't stand the idea that any positive change is going to take longer than liked, and may come with some painful lessons.

    Whatever the change, it won't be instant.

    Expecting it to be with yet another new manager is equally insane.
     
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  16. Citizen Kane.

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    This worries me, not just because it is a poor reflection of a squad with a really poor mentality, but also because we've hardly been convincing in the EL. You can't just turn form on and off like a tap. You either have momentum and a winning formula, or you muddle your way through games much like we are doing now.

    The league should be used as a runway into the EL but as you've said, there's zero chance we'll do that and tbh I can see a narrow exit at QF or SF stage, my money being on the latter against Lazio.
     
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  17. BinghamSpur

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    My head tells me exactly the same thing, although Poch returning would feel like yet another Levy panic decision. Can you see his pride doing that though? I can't, and it'll end up being yet another sap to the slaughter!

    As I said, can't put a finger on it, just would not surprise me if he's still there come August....
     
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  18. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Spurs looked half decent in the early part of the season. Played a very attacking style, scoring plenty of goals, albeit being too open at times.
    But for 3-4 months you’ve looked woeful. Passive, lacking direction or intent, weak under pressure….
    Injuries offer some mitigation, but you have to question the attitude and commitment of the players, suggesting that they aren’t behind Ange and his methods (whatever they are at present).
    Confidence and commitment are massive factors in football; overall there is little difference in quality in 80% of the players in 12-14 of the teams in the PL. The willingness to do the hard work (tracking back etc), play with confidence in your own ability and that of your teammates and commit to the ideas of the manager make a huge difference.
     
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  19. BinghamSpur

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    Oh I don't know, it keeps me away from the wife for a bit.....:bandit:
     
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  20. KingHotspur

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    Nobody is expecting an instant change. Ange has been here nearly 2 seasons and there’s no tangible improvement. The injuries have no doubt massively affected the team and results but how much of that is down to the manager and his demands of play? He has to adjust (imo he hasn’t)

    The good thing about Spurs set up now is, changing manager doesn’t have to mean restarting a rebuild. You can look for a manager who plays progressively instead of anti football like Mourinho. The young players will improve regardless of manager.

    If Ange wins the Europa then he deserves to stay, if Spurs finish bottom half and trophy less then he will deservedly lose his job.
     
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