No one normally gets a push in the back with a leg across his knee. I do not disagree with your principals in terms of sportsmanship. But in terms of your labelling, bias and that literally overshadowing precedent and replays, then you're ferreting down the wrong rabbit-hole on this one.
That's exaggerating contact, not diving though. It's really not the same thing. If there's contact, it's for the ref to deem that it didn't mean the threshold for a pen, or to give the pen. It's not to book for a dive.
He was tripped and pushed simultaneously, how do you know how he’s going to ‘fall’? It’s a clear foul and penalty, not a ‘dive’ and yellow card. A ‘dive’ is when there is minimal or no contact and the player simulates being tripped or pushed to con the ref into giving a foul. If you seriously believe that there’s not enough contact there for a foul and he’s over exaggerated the contact to a significant enough extent to con the ref, then I can only assume that you’re operating on a preconceived bias.
If you want to see a dive and compare it to Puerta, watch the highlights of the Dortmund Lille game the other night. He got a penalty by the way
If you’re on iPhone, there’s a little button in the bottom left corner when you upload, you gotta press that then change file size to something else, large usually works.
With an iPhone you can also just email yourself the picture and it lets you pick the size when you send it, then just save it to photos.
I heard the PGMOL sent a memo to all refs explaining we hadn’t had a player sent off all season & it was up to individual referees to ensure all quotas were met before the season ends. Should be Ok for now but looking at it as a long term strategy we should strive to proactively fill our quotas when a game is safe.
The defender put his hand in the middle of his back and shoved him. Possibly a clue as to why he fell forward rapidly?
That's a slightly different question. I don't know what the rules say exactly but I suspect there probably is provision for refs to book a player for simulation even if he is also touched or fouled, even though we almost never see it. I'm not going to quibble over definitions or rules, my point was simply about whether he was completely innocent, which I don't think he was. All I'm saying is, I do have an issue with players doing that, whether you call it diving or exaggerating contact; it's dishonest and unsporting and it shouldn't be part of the game. And I can see why he got booked for it and I think he should learn something from it. Just blaming the ref and pretending that he behaved 100% honestly is a bit of a delusion, and it may well happen again if he repeats it. Refs are very good at spotting a player going down unnaturally. People make things overly black and white sometimes.
I think it's much more simple - he thought he hadn't booked Puerta yet so wanted to give him a yellow and then realised he'd ****ed up.
Again, overly black and white. As I've already said, there was definitely enough contact for a foul. He also definitely, 100% exaggerated the contact by diving to the floor deliberately. Not interested in the technicality of whether the foul means that it's impossible for it to technically be called a dive. All I'm interested in is that he did deliberately dive to the floor, which is dishonest and which refs are very good at spotting, and that is why he got booked and now he has to face a ban for it. My preconceived bias is that I don't like diving and I think the way that football fans make excuses for it when it's their player is a big part of the problem.
If there's enough contact for a foul then at worst it's play on, not a card. That's all anyone's saying. I hate diving too, but I also hate **** officiating.
They must have improved since Steven 'spread legs' Gerrard played, mind you Zaha is still conning them. The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
If refs paid legitimate penalties when players don't feel like they have to go to ground to get it paid then we'd get less diving, simple as that. Players getting their shirt stretched pulling them back from running into contest a ball is ignored unless the player exaggerates and goes to ground.
The real issue with Peurta's dismissal isn't about whether or not he dived or how much the ref got his decision wrong or whether he would have got his yellow card out if he'd realised he'd already booked him or, indeed, any of the other head of a pin nonsense that's been spouted on here. No, the real issue is that there's no mechanism to right an obvious wrong for a sending off that's caused by two yellow cards when there is a mechanism to appeal a sending off that doesn't involve yellow cards. There's no logical reason for that and it doesn't make sense. That's what needs changing. Although I expect someone will be along soon to tell us why it's a sensible and well considered piece of footballing lore which only enhances the integrity of the game.
