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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. All_Southampton_FC

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    That tagging was a bit tongue in cheek of course I don't condone it. I'm looking out for the legal challenges to the DOGE dogs and how the pared down organisations perform over time. There are those bleating about torched cars that were sympathising even condoning last years riots.
     
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    This is exactly the point.

    Ultimately, i cannot see the protests against Tesla being more than tokenism....especially when you consider the value of contracts awarded to Musk's companies by Trump.
     
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    They have arrested the Captain of the Solong, a 59 year old Russian national.
    Just noticed the Environmental & Pollution Thread
     
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    Ah, disruptive bargaining, yes that’s bang on.
     
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    As I said over there, no surprise!
     
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    Love the new Avatar <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    In an attempt to back Elon Musk, Donald Trump has posed outside the White House with a Tesla. Prone to erratic swerves of direction and liable to blow up at any moment, Trump is 52 days into his second term
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    Surprised no one hwre has comnented in Nicola Sturgeon's decision to quit politics. Unquestionably she was the greatest female polical leader the uk has produced. I as discussing her with the daughter if a friend about 3 years ago and we agreed that she had the potential to be the most significant political leader in Western Europe and steered Europe towards a more progressive era of politics.

    She was exceptional during Covid where she repeatedly had Boris on the ropes but undone by the failure to get a second referendum.
     
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    “Greatest” doing a lot of heavy lifting there, Ian. Like her or not, Thatcher was about a million times more significant.
     
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    One of the worst things about X, and something echoed by a few people here, are lies and distortions intended purely to promote a schism between races in England and distract from the real issue: the lack of appropriate spending on society.


    This week there has been a furore about King Charles becoming Muslim. He has not. And everyone very upset about him not saying anything about Shrove Tuesday. Meanwhile the churches are empty - because nobody gives a crap unless it excuses their hatred of Islam.

    Next, there have been numerous stories about the ‘Christian’ massacres in Syria, but if you point out that most victims as Assad loyal Alawites, you are told no no, cover up! Muslims hate Christians.

    Then there have been thousands of posts of people eating pork at work with their muslim coworkers- as ‘revenge’ for Ramadan. When did basic manners die?

    And then, the rhetoric about Fascist Britain used to justify the ‘free speech’ hate speech they are all spouting requires constant twisting of truth. An element of employment law that means bar staff should not be exposed to hate speech and sexual harassment has been attacked by the right as an infringement of ‘what the pub is for’. So the pub is for telling the barmaid she has great tits and that trans people are mentally diseased? Again, I have never even wanted to say anything crass in front of pub staff - and have had plenty of rowdy pub chats.

    People need to wake up and stop being arseholes.
     
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    Does make me laugh that the left, who constantly virtue signal about climate change, are literally torching electric vehicles.

    Tesla has pushed toward a more environmentally friendly world than any company in history, and the morons are now setting them on fire.

    Musk has singlehandedly done more to reduce emissions than the entire climate activist movement combined. And it's not close.

    Not a brain cell between them <laugh><laugh>
     
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    Does make me laugh that the right, who constantly chest-beat about oil and gas and big engines, are literally buying Teslas now.
     
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    Must be all that testosterone. Or something.
     
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    England, for centuries, has been a European nation rooted in Christian moral values.

    The left seem to think everyone else is allowed a national identity worth protecting, except British people.

    When I go to other countries, I respect their culture. What is happening in England is that there are a growing number of people that do not respect our culture… that are trying to slowly force more extreme Islamic views into the mainstream. (I assume that you are going to deny this reality).

    It is right that people that come here feel welcomed - but it’s not right that it’s at the detriment of the people already here.

    In your eyes, wanting a safe home is ‘xenophobic’, wanting to maintain your town is ‘problematic’, wanting a high-trust society is ‘fascism’.

    Islamic nations themselves don’t tolerate the same kind of extreme religious beliefs that we are happy to tolerate here. They are safer as they punish criminals appropriately and actually police their borders.

    Sheikh Abdullah from the UAE warned that Europe’s approach to extremism will lead to an increase in homegrown terrorists. He said: “There will come a day when we see far more radicals, extremists, and terrorists coming from Europe because of a lack of decision-making and trying to be politically correct.” He is being proven correct.
    This isn’t just an Islam thing, either. We are so soft on crime in this country that it is becoming seriously unsafe.

    Why are other nations, such as the UAE allowed to police their borders and not accept criminals, but we have to accept a complete open border policy that spends billions housing criminals?

    In no sane world is what we are currently doing sustainable.

    The free speech part of your post.. free speech is absolutely fundamental to society. I am unsure how you can dispute this
     
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    Nobody has said anything about British identity not being allowed. Celebrate it. Enjoy it. The existence of other identities is not an attack on traditional Britishness.

    We have discussed lack of respect for British culture before and I think we all agree that assimilation and not ghettoisation is the answer.
    The constant attacks on muslims is not the solution to that. Not is the Two-Tier rhetoric - which is basically just whining that it isn’t fair you aren’t allowed to be racist.

    I think judging whole swathes of society on the actions of a few is the definition of prejudice. Dress it up how you like but all the right’s posturing has become about exclusion rather than inclusion.

    There are undoubtedly issues with immigration and it is too high. But all the right’s racist rhetoric does is turn moderate people off from the debate. And let’s not pretend that racist riots and goong after muslims helps anything.

    Finally, free speech is free if you use it wisely. But this is Europe and not the USA, and here decency, honesty and respect are valued more highly.
    Free speech is hate speech is a disgusting mantra. I suppose you agree that not being allowed to sexually harass barmaids is an impingement?

    What makes the British British is good manners and decency. You want to be more British but without adhering to what makes us who we are.
     
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    By the way, Christ said love the foreigner in your land like you love yourself. So the Christian part of your whole worldview is a mess.
     
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