Off Topic Electric/ Hybrid Cars

It's not fixed, balkan, it's consequences.

The UK is the only European country with fully privatised energy and thus has the highest energy prices. It is the only European country with privatised water and has the worst sewage issues, oldest infrastructure, worst leakages and highest prices and it's the only European country with fully privatised railways... And you get the rest.

 

Not all the UK, the cleanest and cheapest water company in the UK is Scottish Water, oddly it's government owned.


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Fixed as in its only 7p kW to charge an ev but 25p kW for all the things in my house.
Why not leave ev take up to the free market? When people see a benefit in cost or convenience they will take it,

 

He's not helped. But as the other major shareholder is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, it was never a 'clean' brand. The issue now is that Chinese manufacturers are producing better cars cheaper - Xpeng, Byd, Seres, Nio, Zeekr... Not sure if they're in the UK yet, but they're here and all better than what Tesla are selling right now.

The UK is a bit reluctant to embrace Chinese electric cars compared to Europe (apart from dirt cheap MGs), but maybe even Howdentiger and SW3chelseatiger might be swayed by a Denza z9 GT.

 

Haha nar I like the look of the "max" for an electric car, but I'd only ever have a fully electric car as a company car to make use of the BIK benefits, even then I'd have to be really pushed to go away from the plug in hybrid.( Although just realised they do this in plug in hybrid as well )

Electric cars just won't ever do it for me as for me driving is something I love, something I do for enjoyment, the noise, the handling, the feel etc of a big engined or high revving ice car .... none of those things I'm yet to get anywhere close to with an electric car.

And that's before you even get into the "green" arguments of electric cars.

Hydrogen.... That's the real "green" future for cars imo

 

I don't know the details, but as tigermaul mentioned Richmond, I'd imagine it has to do with clean air initiatives in London.

The "green" arguments have been done to death on this thread so won't go there. I think it's the VHS/Betamax battle all over again and electric has won... There was one hydrogen fuelling place near me that closed down last year, so with the huge popularity of electric cars, I can't see hydrogen fuelling working out in this generation. The decent thing with electric is the convenience for charging at home, can't do that with hydrogen.

I can understand your preference for traditional motors although not sure that the car makers will be making them still in ten years time, so you might want to stockpile a couple of cars just in case!

 

What's not so funny is that some people can get so wound up about a bloke that they feel the need to go and vandalise someone's car that was built by that blokes company.

 

People are ****s

I find it a tad funny when unsold cars get ****ed
But if id bought a tesla 3 years ago and someone ****ed my car
Id probably do a michael douglas falling down

Which also is a good point in general
Companies are not your friends and virtue signalling is lame

You can see tweets where musk defended tesla lgbt and equality stuff and bigots should avoid them

Then when it suits him he uno reverses

Same with all companies
They say what sells the most

Fanboys of companies is so cringe

 

The 7p per kw is nothing to do with London. It's OVO Charge Anytime which is a free add-on for EV owners on OVO , but other electricity companies do similar things. Yesterday I did a pretty much full charge for around £5 - and the guessometer is saying that's given me 300 miles plus (although as it's got colder today, I doubt I'll achieve that). The £350 grant towards a charger is nothing to do with London either -- but you need an approved cross-pavement charging solution (eg a council-approved gully) and no available off-street parking to be able to get it. With a lot of the cheaper chargers at around £899 inc installation it brings the charger cost down to about £550. The free cross-pavement gully I got is to do with London (Richmond council trial which I found out about by accident, they claimed my street wasn't eligible as we have lampost chargers, but I argued and argued till they got fed up with me). But other councils across the country are doing similar trials. You need a smart meter to be able to access the 7p rate, which I thought might be the stumbling block as we have an old Victorian terrace with ancient-looking meters etc, but it wasn't a problem (once we'd spent a day clearing enough crap from the cellar for them to be able to access the meter/fuse boxes).

 

Ha, a smart meter eh? We got one of those last August and it didn't work, got a replacement in November it too didn't work, not bothered again,load of ****.


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Yes I'm apprehensive about it. Only got it to access the 7p rate. Seems to be working so far (touch wood).

 

Tesla made a sale to a rich, six times bankrupt, American yesterday, someone should tell him that by law he can't drive it on public roads.


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There's something deeply unsettling about the President of America essentially giving a Tesla sales pitch from the White House, but it's especially strange considering he suspended a program that funded the roll out of EV charging stations.

 

I've always found it slightly contradicting that Musk has Tesla which is pitched as a green alternative but also has SpaceX which burns vast amounts of fuel just to blow itself up

 

He's not allowed to do it as the president. But when has that ever stopped him.