I'm asking for our supporters to stay to the end. Yesterday was much better, but still loads leaving on 88 in the East stand. Why?
I'm more thinking that we have an absolutely ****e record against them. No logic, just gut feels. Also Sky would be all over "Frank Lampard's Coventry"
Much much better in West stand with very few leaving until the 88th minute. Wish the c*nts would fk off sooner. Took me ages to get out yesterday
100% foul. I was critical at the time (and for the rest of the game LOL) but that is a foul - the striker's arm clearly impedes Patto as he's about to catch the ball
He was right at the limits of getting to that. Maybe even he was gonna miss it, but the push on the left arm is before the ball gets there. The frame rate on that slowmo just obscured it a touch. Definitely wouldn’t have counted with VAR.
I have just read through the post match part of this thread. I am surprised at how much negativity there is. To be honest I think it is becoming a bit of a pattern. I think constructive criticism is great, and is how we improve, but some is not constructive, it seems to be just negative for negative sake. We werent at our best but we still found a way to win. We could talk about our mentality, resilience, will to win and game management in the last 10. Instead it is a mix of Patterson is a lower half championship keeper who must be dropped / sold (despite doing nothing wrong), Neil and Jobe were crap (in reality they were not, a bit off their own standards, but not crap), Roberts should be dropped for Watson or Mundle (the lad played 20 mins and got the assist), Rigg is dross out wide (he boxed up his area well enough). I could go on to be honest. What we really have is an elite young side, who are clearly developing at a rate on knots. I find it bizarre people want to move Mayenda from the 9 to accomodate Isidor, after the last couple of games. Mayenda did it early season as the lone 9 too. He is bang in form through the middle. Let him stay there whilst he enjoys the run. Patterson is clearly the latest fall guy. Him or Rigg anyway. I read posts about dropping him, binning him, no progression etc and wonder what folk are looking at. He is in a shaky run, but that is not uncommon. He still does his job. He was slammed yesterday without folk looking closely at the goal. He wasnt at fault. Pilloried on the basis of false analysis. If anything his save was a key turning point - as important as a goal. And why Rigg is the subject of such comments is perhaps the most bizarre. We have a 17 year old, having a breakthrough season, in the 8 role, in a physically demanding league, but but but... Roberts gets grief all the time on here. Every coach we have had wants him in the side. I certainly want him in the side. It is clear as day we are more balanced with him wide right. Of course, lets chuck our best 9 out there, or even better one of our left wingers. Why not trust Regis if he thinks he is the best for the team? Cracking little assist yesterday by the way. Hume, Mepham, ONien, Neil, Mundle, Mayenda, Roberts, Isidor, Jobe all looking in really solid form to me, and have for a long time. Patterson isnt far off at all. Cirkin very likely to find his A game again. Rigg is the most talented and gifted player we have at the club and will undoubtedly come back into the 8 and shine this season imo. Back to back wins. Top 2 not dead. So many things to be positive about. I am sticking with every single one of these young buggers. We would be much weaker if any of them werent in our squad. Enjoy your Sundays. It is bloody lovely outside, we won, and we have another game to look forward to where we will see the best team we have had in many a year busting a gut for us fans.
Tend to agree, but that assumes we have someone to play wide right. And also, once ELF gets back, the only way we get both him and Wilson in the team is if one of them goes wide. We’re approaching the point where both deserve to start. Good problems to have, but problems nevertheless.
I agree with most of that but I do feel Roberts' profound lack of goal threat is a pretty big problem for us. Especially with Mundle still finding his feet after a long lay off. There's a lot of pressure on our number 9s at the moment and while I couldn't be a great deal more impressed by either of them, I'd like to see goal threat from the wings and from somewhere in the three centre mids. There is a whole heap to be excited about with more big days to come over the course of the season and next season, whatever league we are in. The promise a lot of the lads are showing has me unconcerned by whether we go up this year or not. If it isn't this year, I think it will happen next year.
Well said Fell, its been said on here for months about lads moaning for the sake of it, these fantastic threads are railroaded week after week and it's beyond tiring. I actually switched it off at HT yesterday and sat and watched the scores on Sky, I was so tired of some of the negativity, then later lo and behold Patto is clearly fouled makes a match saving touch onto the post and still people want him binning. I could go on. Were having a magnificent season and its still not good enough for some, can't please some of our fans no matter what.
Eliezer Mayenda Sunderland success story & Le Bris transfer admission https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/s...and-success-story-le-bris-transfer-admission/ ELIEZER Mayenda's Sunderland teammates had disappeared down the tunnel and returned to the dressing room but the striker was still out on the Stadium of Light pitch conducting the full-time celebrations in the stands.... A year ago tomorrow he was an 86th minute substitute in a Hibs home defeat to Rangers, one of just four outings for the Scottish Premiership side in a loan stint that offered no clues as to what has followed this season. Compare that with the striker he has turned into, a striker Sunderland couldn't afford to go out and sign if he wasn't already playing in red and white. Le Bris admitted as much after Saturday's game. "Here at Sunderland we can't buy players at that level so we need to build them," he said. .... "He's doing very well," said Sunderland's boss. "I've said it before, he's a good example for all the team. He was on the bench for a long period but kept working, kept trying to be involved with the team and kept trying to improve his levels. Now he's really impressive. "He seems strong, confident, dominant and it's good. We need that on the pitch to dominate this last part of the season. "If he can inspire others that's good. Hopefully we can build this level of confidence for other players." Le Bris will keep pushing Mayenda to improve and has identified the area in his game he believes still needs most work. "He's improved in many areas because he got minutes and he's talented," said Le Bris. "He wants to work hard and improve. He's really connected out of possession, he's very good with his back to goal to keep the ball and when he can turn and dribble and push the ball he's really good. "In the last part of the pitch he can improve again because if you are more efficient there you are more impactful."
See I don't see the Roberts goal threat as a big issue, he has two and three defenders/midfielders trying to nullify him making space for others but fans seem to ignore that, how many other wingers are scoring loads of goals? Yesterday was a prime example, 20 odd minutes he's fully involved, gets an assist, goes off and the game changes completely it's as plain as the nose on your face his impact yesterday. His assist isn't enough for some, but he doesn't score...I ****ing give up watch the bigger picture, PR is having a good season imo.
I'm not talking about needing him to score loads of goals at all. But we have two centre backs with better goal to game ratios than him and I find that problematic in a front three. The goal scoring burden just needs to be spread out more than it currently is if we are to kick on, I feel. Could well be wrong.
Agreed mate. Some extra goal contributions would be great and I get why people talk about that. We are a better side with him in it though. For the ball carrying, committing players, natural width, connection with Hume, defensive work and probably a couple more aspects. He is not a world beater but has contributed hell of a lot to our very good season.
I have long felt Roberts game contribution is not valued enough. Mowbray used to praise him to the hilt for his build up play. I am not against data as a means of analysis. But I do think isnt the be all and end all. We talk about goals and assists as if only those contributions go towards the scoring of a goal. It is nonsensical really. If we score a goal of the back of 5 passes, or 3, or 8, all passes are part of that build up. Pass number 3 of 6 may be the most critical as it takes out 2 players for example. What I think Roberts does is provide balance down the right, and width for an outball, or the switch. The switch, which ONien and Neil do so well, kills teams at this level as they have to cover so much ground to recover. Roberts is a really hard working defensive winger too and he and Hume are really well synched up. There are no guarantees but I would be quite confident a front three of Mundle Isidor and Mayenda would be very unbalanced and the overall team structure would suffer. All that said, if we buy a better player than Roberts then he sits out. But as it stands he is out best right sided player and in my opinion is not a problem that needs solving by putting a square peg in a round hole.
I thought that we seemed a bit more at it yesterday than we have for the past couple of games. As I have said previous I think we struggle to play back to back front footed games, and we still have 2 more to play before the international break. I would hope Regis would rotate the squad, but I don’t think he will. Preston will be stubborn, but we need to be full strength and fully firing to put a marker down on Coventry.
