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Match Day Thread Toon v Brighton (FA Cup)

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Feb 27, 2025.

  1. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Age Concern - Speak to Trev for directions
     
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  2. Dr Venkman

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    I'm talking about the fallacious claims that he's not been backed.

    That's why I said hes had millions, because he's been backed to the maximum, not blaming him for ins and outs as you alleged.

    Keep up folders.

    No blame was assigned to anything by me, so feel free to check back, and perhaps you will realise that you've fell into a great big deep hole.
     
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  3. magpie290761

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    Again it’s a mixed message. By saying he’s had millions and been backed to the maximum it infers that all should be rosy but doesn’t tell the full story and those saying he hasn’t been backed are also not correct. He was given big backing but to succeed that needs to continue but we haven’t been able to do that so he hasn’t had support in the market over the last 3 windows. He may have had the maximum available but if that is zero then he hasn’t had backing.
     
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  4. Dr Venkman

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    I disagree, it simply means he's had the backing front loaded. If they saved money and spread it out they probably wouldn't have Isak Gordon and/or Tonali. They'd have had to buy cheaper players to save a few quid for later windows.

    He's also been backed by not selling our best players.

    Whether it would be ideal to have kept spending is just obvious, but to suggest he's not been backed is simply not true.

    They've sorted the PSR situation and guess what they'll back him again.
     
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  5. magpie290761

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    Front loaded doesn’t work, especially from where we were. Continuing to spend is needed and they would have if they could. Unfortunately they couldn’t so for 3 windows the fact is he wasn’t backed to improve the team.
    I haven’t said he hasn’t been backed if you read my post properly. Saying it’s been front loaded is mental gymnastics. He was and did well. For the last 3 windows he hasn’t so has done less well. It’s clear why. The top teams have been able to do it and that’s why they are where they are and everyone fawns over their managers.
     
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  6. Dr Venkman

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    It did work because nufc stayed up, made champions league, two finals and are fighting for Europe.

    I said he'd been backed and it appears you agree.
     
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  7. magpie290761

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    Yes backed overall but the required backing in the last 3 windows wasn’t possible hence criticism has to be reserved.
     
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  8. Dr Venkman

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    This must be where folders fell down the well because I've not criticised howe in this chat and was always simply saying he's been backed.

    It appears we agree.

    Although for me credit and criticism is always valid.
     
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  9. magpie290761

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    Sometimes valid sometimes not. See GG
     
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  10. Dr Venkman

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    There's plenty that assign credit to Howe following wins, but won't accept anyone criticising him for things following defeats.

    Both are valid or people are just being selective, agenda based and insincere.
    Some may go a bit far following defeats and wins though.
     
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  11. Geordie Ginola

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    He man I just give credit and criticism where I think it’s due. If people can’t handle the truth that’s their problem.

    BTW stack is ****ing massive isn’t it.
     
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  12. magpie290761

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    Not been in it yet but looks big from the outside. Seems to always get packed for the match days
     
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