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WAR! What is it good for?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Treble, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Well this war you are so eager for and fully back may go on so long your 8yr old gets snatched off the street and dragged into a van and sent to die.

    Maybe then you'll understand <laugh>
     
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  2. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    CK I need someone to clean my tank tracks if you need employment
     
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  3. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Can't sorry, I'll be busy getting care packages in jail mate<whistle>
     
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  4. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    Unlike your hero, Donald Dick, I would be roo old now and exempted on rather obvious medical grounds ...

    We won't be conscripting to send troops to Ukraine, neither will other NATO allies - will be regular army - and if I"d joined the regular army I'd have dine so kniwing the risks -. so your prattling is rather spurious nonsense
     
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  5. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Well good, I wernt fkn asking <laugh>

    You blazing up in there isn't optimal for combat
     
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  6. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Welcome to the point fosse.

    It's easy to be a warmongering pussyhole when your not going yourself.
     
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  7. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Oh you'd want to ask me mate.

    I'd hotbox the **** out of your tank. The smokes good for cover
     
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  8. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Me: cprl Sucky, open fire

    Sucky: you got it

    please log in to view this image
     
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  9. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    8 year olds aren't being dragged off the streets. This isn't Czarist Russia.

    I'm not eager for it and I don't back it at all. I'm generally supportive of Trump's plan not because I agree with it but because it might just bring an end to a horrible and totally pointless conflict that has been stuck in a stalemate for years wherein neither side can win but they also can't afford to lose.

    I totally disagree with Starmer's take on the situation because if he got his way, this war would go on for another decade with zero conclusion.

    The difference that you don't seem to grasp is that Ukrainian civilians are being conscripted to defend freedoms they enjoy or expect to enjoy directly. I doubt you've read Hobbes or Locke, but this underpins the foundations of any society. It is unfair to expect others to make sacrifices on my behalf without my contribution on theirs. So if my freedom is under attack, I either pick up a gun or I go to jail, simple as.

    Russia doesn't currently threaten my personal freedom which is why nothing compels me to go and risk my life fighting Russia. Similarly the Ukrainians fighting on the front line are certainly very noble and brave, but they aren't fighting to defend my freedom, so what compels me to go and join them?

    This is where Zelensky botched the whole press conference. The moment he implied that 'our fight is your fight' and openly said that if Russia wins, America will suffer next...that's where he lost the room and almost certainly lost Trump. Because he confused a moral argument with a political one and was simply wrong to do so. Nothing compels US soldiers to go and fight in Ukraine because their freedom isn't and will never be threatened by Russia. Zelensky tried to draw this threat and failed badly.
     
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  10. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Exactly <laugh>

    But alas I've served my country back in my teens and don't fancy it again<whistle>
     
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  11. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Served in the cadets…..

    Found a parade picture of you online.
    IMG_8044.jpeg

    Thanks for your service. Those with experience will be the first conscripted by Starmer.
     
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  12. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I don't see how Starmers approach is something that would result in perpetual war at all tbph

    How is a peace deal with the US supported by European peace keeping forces in anyway a suggestion from Starmer that he wants the war to never end?

    A big criticism I have of the Trump "plan" is it is entirely reliant on "Putin likes me" which gives you absolutely no support after Trump is no longer President. The US President is such a narcissist he cannot grasp he will one day not be in place and the war can just resume.
     
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  13. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Youre very welcome bro
     
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  14. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Will take me all day to read that so I'll probably reply tomorrow
     
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  15. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Send me a signal when you get to the front line, just a quick two bell will be enough.
     
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  16. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    It'll will be in morse code probs bruv.

    Royal signals innit
     
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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Why would The Royal Signals use morse code instead of encrypted communications?
    Thick ****.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    is that dyb,dyb, dyb?
     
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  19. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I love how Ern signs off all his posts with thick **** <laugh>
     
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  20. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I think the point that's often overlooked here is that Ukrainians want to fight for their country, because it is an existential threat for them

    I could make the same point about Palestinians too, but I won't :bandit:

    Far from the accusation that people here are Warmongers for supporting that, it's about supporting their right to defend their country.
     
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