It makes sense to me, he's highly unlikely to reoffend, and two years is a long one for a suspended sentence, if he ****s up in the next two years, he serves his time and any additional time for new offences. He was a twat, he'll take a life experience away with that and it's pointless wasting taxpayers money to keep him inside. I probably would have put him on an anger management course as well, if such a thing exists as condition of his release.
Convicted on a Monday, appeal heard, won.. and released by Wednesday. Absolute joke And I just came across this, which kinda makes your point about reoffending... Well read it yourself
Have you actually read it Sucky? - the author shys away from giving any detail of what the woman's comments were - but the article included suggests she was advocating / inciting Rioters to kill ... Now let's spin it - instead of the woman, some Muslim cleric makes a post suggesting that all 'unbelievers' should be killed ... he gets reported and is arrested - would you be arguing he shouldn't get a harsher sentence than some bloke who thumps some other bloke who is haranguing him repeatedly in the street?
I dont really care what she posted mate. Words are words and free speech is the issue. And to your question, I've literally post a video today of a Muslim doing exactly what you just said. And I've seen many more doing the same. Also have you ever heard of someone being convicted of a crime and winning an appeal within 3 days? Nah me neither
No mate - 'free speech' does not include incitement to riot or encouragement to kill ... As to the speed of appeal, I suspect there are many instances of 'public' figures having similar turnarounds - perhaps you could check?
Sadiq khunt said no to grooming gang inquiry in london. Oh look These fuking judges should be strung up. Absolute state of that sentence. Disgusting
This country is ****ed and Starmer telling Trump we have free speech is a total joke. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1kjjw3rdd8o Brief summary, guy leaving Stamford bridge after match responds to the Chelsea crowd shouting at his (the away) fans. Turns back and shouts "oi, Chelsea rent boys" (basic return banter to a lot of people) Next thing he knows six security guards grab him and a policeman arrests him. Charged with a hate crime. Lad has now been banned from all football grounds for three years and sent on a course to explain how hurtful his comment was. No mention of what the Chelsea fans were shouting.
Real hate crimes (like attacking someone, or harassing someone, or damaging property of someone because of race, religion, gender identity, sexuality, etc) should be fought against strongly. But just saying something offensive... That's absurd. No, you shouldn't say hateful things, but I find it absurd you can be arrested for something like that. There are real hate crimes, calling someone a Chelsea rent boy is not one of them. There again, not sure where anyone in the Trump administration has the right to criticize UK when they've threatened closing newspapers down for posting articles criticizing Trump. If Trump/Vance had their way the US would have no free speech either.
Now that is really sensoring speach. I was talking more around the hurtful words crime against a crowd who ere shouting at you. Articles/posts etc that advocate violence against others should be a crime but the crime of incitement not hate. The hate crime moniker just leaves too much open for exploitation, how far do you take it.
Our so called "free speech" is about to get a lot less free me thinks.... https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...-on-anti-muslim-hatredislamophobia-definition
You take it right to someone's front door when they post anything your anti hate laws come under It's **** and it's getting worse and lots of people are just like... please log in to view this image
Your summary is not a fair representation tbh. The bloke says in the article ... "I accept that [what I did] was awful, and now it's about repaying that, turning that into something positive. I've had a look at myself... I'm willing to make amends," he said. "People are going to make mistakes, but you're judged on how you then move forward." He said the session had changed him "massively". "It's made me aware of how there's a fine line between what's considered banter and just abuse."
I can take you back 11 years mate, April 2014...when three Gillingham supporters were arrested for racial abuse. Their offence on the terrace was for calling Steve Evans a fat scottish bastard. Eventually common sense prevailed and the manager said he didn't want to press charges, so they were released.
World's going mad - 'humour' is being lost to political correctness - 'humour' has always had 'edgy' aspects - yes there is sometimes a fine line to what is 'unacceptable' but there is plenty of stuff that walks on the line without quite crossing it, and that tends to be the funniest ... Many years ago I was standing on the Spion Kop at the old Filbert St when we were playing Preston - Tommy (the Doc) Docherty was their manager and during the week the news had broken (probably in The Sun) that the Doc had been knobbing the wife of club physio, Louis Brown ... When the teams came out, the Kop launched into this ditty - to the tune of 'Knees Up Mother Brown'... Who's up Mary Brown, who's up Mary Brown, Tommy, Tommy, Docherty, what a dirty **** is he? Fair play to the Doc - he got up from the dugout and waved - and got a rapturous round of applause from the kop in return - nowadays plod would have been pulling people out and charging them with 'hate crimes'
Back then people (including footballers ) could give and take a bit of fun. I remember us playing QPR at Oldtrafford and the Stretford end kept chanting Stanly Stanly show us your arse to Stan Bowls. At a quiet part of the match when the ball was out of play he turned his back to the stretty end, bent down and pulled his shorts down. Got by far the biggest cheer of the day and earnt a lot of credit/respect from all.
