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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. haslam

    haslam Well-Known Member

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    I'm against the name FFP to be honest. Using a subjective word like "fair" tries to legitimise a subjective term that people aren't going to agree on. It's like ending a sentence and writing FACT at the end.

    Personally I'd argue that "fair" would be everyone having the same spending and salary caps (which i think is what American sports have but I don't follow them so I'm not sure) but I wouldn't want that as I think it would weaken the league versus other European ones. As such a loss limits agreement (to actually try and prevent clubs from going bust) or a percentage spend based on the finances of the lowest earners or highest earners would be fine.

    I just bristle whenever people try and use the word "fair" as if it's some obviously agreed on idea.
     
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  2. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah of course, I wouldn't be against a ban against state ownership and it's not something I'd want for my club but it's far too late for that unfortunately and there's no going back, can't close Pandoras box. The time for any of those types of regulations would have had to have been the 90s after the PL's creation.

    Salary cap would be good but it'd have to be worldwide and there's no chance of that ever happening realistically.

    I disagree there has to be a restriction on spending, the richest clubs have always spent the most money whether it was Sunderland in the 19th century or yourselves 100 years later. It's nothing new apart from the fact it was two relatively unfashionable clubs in the noughties outspending the big boys and winning stuff they'd not have had a chance at in the modern era.

    For me the restrictions should be about putting the money in a trust of sorts to ensure the funds are protected and therefore the clubs aren't put at risk. If you remember when FFP was announced that was they claimed the rules were for which was clearly bollocks.
     
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  3. Dr Venkman

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    Chelsea are imploding
     
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  4. Dr Venkman

    Dr Venkman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we'll be waiting for a long time for the so called big clubs to agree to a fair fight.
     
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    Weren't Chelsea supposed to be in the title race?!
     
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  6. haslam

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    I hear you but to be honest I genuinely don't want our owners to start pumping in hundreds of millions of pounds into the football team. The original amounts were within the rules as we'd been running on a shoestring, at a profit for years and dying as a result. If our owners want to build a new stadium, better training facilities, invest in youth, etc then great I'd love that. Throwing £500m on a new set of players, no thanks.

    Obviously I'll just support either way as it's entirely out of my hands but all I was looking for after Ashley was someone who actually tried to grow the club and compete - so far they've done that well as I suspect the value of the club has matched their investment.

    All this leads to my main issue with FFP, PSR and APT's though. 20+ years ago people just talked about the football...
     
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  7. Star of David Bardsley

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    QPR 2-0 Denver Broncos here.
     
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  8. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Wouldn't mind Derby going down as I've been there and they're an extremely dull club.

    Unless we finish on 12 points and then we go there on the opening day.
     
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  9. Star of David Bardsley

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    They must be the tallest team in history.
     
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  10. Dr Venkman

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    I don't want other clubs to be able to spend more year on year and ruin my weekends forever.

    It's all very simple either a cap for all clubs or nothing at all. These are the only fair options.

    If Newcastle spend 500 million on players great because they would.
     
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  11. Dr Venkman

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    Nice qpr goal there
     
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  12. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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  13. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Straight swap for nunez and we'll chuck in Bobby Clark for bantz
     
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  14. ToonArmy1892

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    3 zip.

    Great start the the weekend of barclays.
     
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    You can't afford him bruv and we'll be able to offer him 500k a week in the summer now anyway.

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    BTW remember when Nunez and Isak came to the PL at basically the same time and people thought Nunez was gonna be the better player <laugh>
     
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  18. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Chavs <laugh>
     
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  19. Dr Venkman

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    I'm sensing a 4th.
     
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