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Dean Hammond - NOT up to it

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by SFCbwSFC, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

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    as good as he is, I would rather bring through players from our academy rather than helping other teams academy - its only going to harm the progress of our youngsters
     
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  2. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    I see where you are coming from but I want to be in the premiership. Bringing through players like Ward-Prowse isn't really back up to the first team. W-P and players in his situation need to be bled as substitutes, in cup games and sent out on loans.
     
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  3. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

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    Hammond has been excellent.

    End of.
     
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  4. tomw24

    tomw24 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    This. But if we get to the PL we will probably start with Cork and Schneiderlin. I just dont think Hammond would cut it at PL level. But I would love to be proved wrong.
     
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  5. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    Yes, but hammond isn't a premiership player in my opinion.
     
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  6. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Was watching Liverpool v Fulham last night and thinking to myself that we need half a new team to compete if we get promoted. Felt like a traitor, but it's a fact of life that the team that gets you up doesn't always get many games the next season. Still I'm sure Adkins will be delighted to have to deal with that problem.
     
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  7. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't a championship layer in most people's views on here during July .... a little different now though. Deano always gets bashed by the fans, and usually those who don't understand that a team game isn't about having 11 Lallana's.
     
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  8. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    yep.

    A lot of teams come down as they fail to identify those who can't cut it early.
     
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  9. Itchen North Matt

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    There are a few outstanding players in the academy and JWP is one of them. I wouldn't mind calling on him as backup if he was needed.
     
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  10. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

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    People said he wasn't a Championship player <doh> Well you were wrong.

    I'm of the theory that you cannot say that until we are actually there and he has played a reasonable amount of games <ok>
     
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  11. Leon86

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    Kieth Andrews was never rated when he moved to Blackburn, but I think he is/was one fo there best players over the past few years. Same as hammond, he will make the move up the leagues because of the type of player he is. Like paul telfer. Solid.
     
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  12. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    You really are a pleb. Very few people said he wasn't Championship standard. Get off your high horse.

    2nd line: You can say he's not premiership standard. He hasn't got the pace, vision or passing ability to play in the Premiership at a good standard. If you think he can play in the Premiership, then fine. But if he plays 38 games in centre midfielder he will be in a relegation side.
     
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  13. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    I rarely watch Blackburn play so I can't judge on Andrews. I saw Telfer play a fair few times though. Telfer played for Coventry in the Premiership so he didn't really make the step up to Saints. I also think centre midfielder is more of an important role than right back.
     
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  14. Itchen North Matt

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    Keith Andrews plays for Ipswich now doesn't he?
     
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  15. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    <laugh> Definitely made it in the Premiership then.
     
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  16. Saints Fan4Life

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    alot of our current crop will be Premiership players
     
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  17. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    Yes, definitely. I just don't think Hammond will be one of them.
     
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  18. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

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    SFTW, you don't have to let rip at me if you don't agree with an opinion. <doh>

    You're only making yourself look childish <ok>
     
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  19. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    In this thread I have actually debated with you. Just the first line,

    People said he wasn't a Championship player <doh> Well you were wrong.

    That sir is an ignorant comment and there is no need for it. You are basically calling other people wrong when I remember very few comments about Hammond questionable championship quality.
     
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  20. Beef

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    I don't think hammond would cut it in the prem either. As for Andrews he was **** in the prem, but he's class in the championship. It shows what a gulf in class there is between the two. We will need at least 5 new players if we go up.
     
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