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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Arteta's spend for the sweet some of **** all is also spectacular.
     
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  2. saintanton

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    Sorry, everyone.
     
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  3. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    :biggrin:

     
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  5. saintanton

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    I do wonder whether some of the FSG critics actually think their points through critically.
    Man U currently are a prime example of how not to do it. They've spent big in an attempt to buy success, failed and now are forced to try and offload some of their better players in order to balance the books.
    Ironically, having to sell some of their more valuable players might eventually lead them to adopt a better business model.
    I hope not.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    absolutely.

    We have a budget and work to it. Its that simple.

    Certain amount of funds for transfers is ring fenced annually thats looking to the long term. That PSR view. Spend it one year then you can't have it the next as you'll increase amoritisation and cause acocunting issue.

    Certain amount of fund for wages for all staff and players. Again based on revenues and is actually quite high and a target of the conspiracy theorists now. We pay a lot of players well but few if any at the top end.

    IF we looked at the out rageous waste at man utd.
    Casemiro 350k
    Fernandes 300k
    Rashford 300k
    mount 250k
    anthony 200k
    de ligt 195k
    Maguire 190k
    Eriksen 150k
    Shaw 150k
    Mazraoui 135k
    lindeloff 120k
    martinez 120k
    Onana 120k
    ugarte 120k
    yuoro 115k
    zirkzee 105k

    thats form a quick google.

    Even if you cmapre this to what we go when we went and got diaz or gakpo etc we paid them a lot less than urgarte or zirkzee and especially yoro.

    However the top of the pile is adding ZERO value to that club.

    By contrast we are paying
    Salah 350k
    VVD 220k
    Trent 180k
    robbo 160k
    Alisson 150k
    cheisa 150k
    gravenberch 150k
    macallister 150k
    jota 140k
    nunez 140k
    gakpo 120k
    szoboszlai 120k

    now obviously not everyone is worth their wage but jota on his rare fit weeks is worth it. You can see the structure clearly and the club trying to hold it (which i think they are mad to lose the top 3 wages as the perofrmances merit it.


    Arsenal got rid of ozil and aubameyang pretty quick and started to improve. IMO utd have massive issues they have made for themselves with wages for players not actually worth it.

    rashford held them to ransom after one decent season and got a massive deal and hasn't bothered himself since. his attitude stinks. Fernandes imo doesn't work for the team he works for himself. Casemiro is shot. mount was a hilarious signing, anthony a disaster.

    They backed ten hag to the hilt there with really bad buys.
     
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  7. The IncREDibles

    The IncREDibles Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we walk away if we're being held to ransom for players. When we needed a DM to replace Fabinho, we were quoted a ridiculous 70mil for Cheick Doucoure at Crystal Palace, and settled on Endo.

    By contrast, Utd signed Hojlund and Antony for ridiculous sums, and weren't even in any bidding wars for them.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    apparently someone bid 105 for caicedo or something so he must have been fired or high or something. I'd say john henry was so releived when cheslea upped the bid.

    In the end klopp could have had the brighton midfield but he ended up giving slot 3 players to win a league
     
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  9. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    SCARY NEWS:
    Michael Oliver is the referee for Merseyside Derby on the 12th of February.
    I cannot understand why the referee has been selected well in advance, two weeks before the game.
     
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  10. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    Hahaha!! Here we go again; it's like the constant refrain that FSG are not as bad as H&G - if we spent more money we'd be as bad as Chelsea and United now, apparently. No, I'm not saying that at all. But we have over £400m wiggle room in PSR to play with, and I just think extending the 3 contracts and buying a half-decent CB/LB now, while we can, is not exactly busting the bank.
     
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    This "constant refrain" is only constantly bought up by FSG haters in a bid to show that anyone who doesn't utterly condemn them for every move they make is ****ing stupid.
     
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    I accept your figures, but I'm sure I read not long ago that Maguire was on more than Virgil. Think I may have even read it on the Man U board, but I cba trawling through to find it.

    Look. Utd and Chelsea are utter basket cases and I don't advocate at all following their example, but I am saying that we have a lower net spend than Bournemouth, Villa, and West Ham over various seasons - it's not asking the world to top up our squad by a couple of hundred million that we can afford.
     
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  13. Solid Air 2

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    PSR is irrelevant as far as we are concerned the salient point is we are not generating profits in recent years though this year one would expect will .
     
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    Mate, we bid £110m for Caicedo. Ironically, I, who is always on FSG's back for not spending, was mortified at that one: we were going to spend treble the amount of a players worth only pulling out of the running for Bellingham 3 months earlier when his price went over £80m. Now don't get me wrong, Bellingham would almost certainly gone to Madrid anyway, but £110 for Caicedo? But yes, I don't want our club to spend ludicrous money at all, as in the Doucoure price. Just want us to not act like some ****ing paupers for the sake of it.
     
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  15. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't accept his figures <laugh>

    Yes our net spend is low but our wage bill is very high .People obsess about the transfer spend without looking at the other aspects .
    The 200m you want to spend would have to be borrowed and much better to wait till summer unless there is a player a club fancies from a club that needs to sell
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I believe he had a massive bonus for being in the clubs that brought his eage up to 250k
     
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    He used being gay as an excuse for what he did? How ridiculous. I don't care what his sexuality is, it doesn't make any excuse for it. You don't go on a drugs-bender and attack a team you're supposed to be impartial towards because you're gay- you do that because you're a twat. There are plenty of gay people who arn't twats so it's no excuse.

    Nonetheless, I wish him no harm, he's not officiating anymore and hope he gets to live his life, not as a twat, doing something completely unrelated to football.
     
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  18. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    The Virgil/Pickford ref - he had to admit (3 months later in the S*n - the PGMOL's go-to paper) that he 'forgot' the rules for Serious Foul Play. He will deliberately dick us over to do Arsenal a favour to try and get them off his back, wait and see. :emoticon-0138-think
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    There's no such thing as 400 ml wriggle room in psr.

    The profits and losses are matter of public record lfc have not made a 295mil profit over the past years .

    Currently -15 mil over 3 years requires an ownership commitment to pay the creditors.
    -105 mil over the same mean fines and points deductions.
     
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