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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Jan 15, 2025.

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Should we sack Ange now?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2025.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Is it this one?
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    That's the one
     
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  3. Roo

    Roo Well-Known Member

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    Ali gold is saying that we’re sticking with Ange, and trying to sign at least 1 player by the end of the window.

    Is Levy backed so far into a corner that he doesn’t know what to do? I can’t stand him, but other managers have been sacked for less. What does Levy feel that 1 or 2 signings will do at this stage?
    I can’t make sense of any of it any more.
     
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  4. SarrMan

    SarrMan Well-Known Member

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    Just posted on the match thread as saw the same thing. If he does make it through today then can’t see him going anywhere. We must be putting a lot of credence on things will get better once players become available again, getting out of imminent danger and fingers crossed winning a trophy.

    likely to be 16th after next weekends fixtures though. All just one big mess at the moment.
     
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  5. Roo

    Roo Well-Known Member

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    yeah, I think levy is “doubling down”. Well, when I say “doubling down”, not in the way we as fans would hope in order to fix things, but sticking by his previous decisions in the hope it comes good. Absolute last chance saloon. I don’t think he thinks he’s got a lot of choice, and needs to hope for the best.

    The fans are on his back more than ever.
    There’s no manager we could get in (an Iraola type) without costing a fortune (that he’s not going to want to pay compensation for at this time of the year/ wouldn’t be available).
    Any other replacement I.e Ryan Mason is going to leave us with another problem in a few months.
    The fans know the next bloke, unless picked very carefully, is likely to only last 18 months. - history tells us we’ll likely get it wrong again, and the fans are seeing through it. Chances are the right manager will cost a lot to bring in too, so he’ll be reluctant to doing so.
    All whilst also not paying enough in wages for the next manager to be backed, and to get us back to where we need to be.

    Despite our awful results and the manager not being up to the job, he’s probably hoping that 1 or 2 loan signings and players returning from injury will save our season.
     
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  6. Citizen Kane.

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    As I said yesterday. I highly doubt any sane manager is interested in joining us right now. So if we sacked Ange, we'd likely be looking at Mason until the end of the season along with a protracted search for a new manager during which 5 or 6 candidates reject us and we end up with someone way down the list, which is exactly what happened with Nuno and Ange.

    Jose and Conte were awful fits for the club, but both came in almost immediately after their predecessors left, and that helps enormously in terms of morale and handover.

    Ange is a terrible manager but I sympathise with the fact that he inherited an absolute mess with toxicity growing from February 2023 all the way to Kane leaving in August.

    Levy is fully and utterly cornered now and he'll only pull the trigger if and when we have someone lined up to take over seamlessly.
     
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  7. Spurlock

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    already for me once again Levy has shown that he knows nothing about the game

    we are in such a state that signings were required at the beginning of the TW

    I dont know the ins and outs of the job but it baffles me how our chief scouts don’t use the TW to finalise a deal, I always get the impression that’s when they decide to get off their arses, then spend the month doing what we all witness. The apologists will say something about deals being hard to complete, then I say give up, what’s this build up to an almighty let down on the last day anyway?

    The owners of the club are not serious about THFC as a football entity, we are well and truly just another entertainment option of the ENIC entertainment complex.

    im not saying let’s spend 60 mill on a 35 mill player, however the way things work out with incoming’s demonstrates that those running the show don’t care or don’t have a clue.
     
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  8. Roo

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    said the same. I just don’t get it. It has to be a mentality of seeing if anything cheaper comes along nearer the end. Which says it all.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    There's whispers that an announcement will be made this evening

    Personally I'd find it hilarious if we made two: Ryan Mason was taking over for the remainder of the season, and we've also signed a new CB
     
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  10. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    <laugh>.

    I don’t know why but the more I read that line from Ali Gold the more I laugh about it. Into the final week of the window, needed high level signings in on Jan 1st but we’re looking to sign “at least one player” in the final week ahead.

    We are so comically horrific it’s genuinely funny now.
     
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  11. BinghamSpur

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    I got all excited earlier when it popped up on my phone that we had signed a new defender. Then I noticed it was for the women’s team. I don’t suppose she could be any worse though……
     
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    I laughed when I saw that as well. "One new player" indeed, although I suspect he may have been taking the p*** a bit. British irony and all that....
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I wish it were irony but I think it’s more likely Ali just stating facts.

    Between Munn, Lange and Levy we’ve got the holy trinity of an inept hierarchy. Throw in a dunce of a manager and we’ve compete the set.
     
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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    Just read the rest of Ali's piece.

    He rightly tears the club to shreds.

    We are a joke.
     
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  15. Citizen Kane.

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    Some will see this as some sort of victory. This graph screams lack of ambition.

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  16. PowerSpurs

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    All still over-reacting
    Ange has a better record than Bill Nicholson over his first 76 matches.
    The latter was knocked out of the FA Cup by a 3rd Division club in a replay in his second season.
    So I guess you would have all voted to sack him after that...
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    If only there was some way to immediately identify where a £300k a week drop in our wages last season may have come from...
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    A reduction in OPEX (wages) makes money
    available for CAPEX (transfers) , no ??

    So what does the transfers to turnover chart look like ??
     
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  19. The RDBD

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    On the Ryan Mason front, he has been at the club long enough now.

    1. If he is not ready to be manager, then what is he ??

    2. If he is a coach, then what is he providing other than
    the "system" of the manager of the day ??

    Time for him to either be selected, or asked to be go
    afield to learn the missing aspects of his trade.
     
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  20. Citizen Kane.

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    We were second bottom of the same list of teams before Kane, Hugo, Dier et al. left.

    We also have the lowest wages:revenue in the PL so this is clearly the result of a long term policy decision, not just a freak occurrence because a few high earners left last year.
     
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