Guys, I know I'm not a mod, and I know I have no previous knowledge of users from other forums - but I'd like to keep it that way. Would you mind voicing any concerns through the PM system, rather than in public? It has taken a potentially interesting topic way off course. When I first joined, not606 was always billed as being a fresh start for people joining from other forums. At least let it start that way! If people turn out to be a pain on here, then let the mods step in, we don't need pre-emptive strikes! I hope he doesn't mind being used as an example, but from what I gather ForzaFerrari didn't have the best of reputations online before joining this forum. However, in all his time here, I've never experienced any issues with him, and all his posts have been exemplary. If one 'bag egg' can change, why shouldn't others be afforded the same chance. (Sorry Forza, I really hope you don't mind being used as an example, please don't take offense!)
yeah forza is a fantastic member, I can't remember who he used to be anymore, was it him that was pretending to be atmcdotg?
I can't recall Forza having multiple accounts on this forum, although I could be wrong. More likely it was another PMC/LewisWDC account, but the mods (who can check IP's) are probably the best ones to ask. Lets draw a line underneath all the petty squabbling and off topic -ness (mods, feel free to delete my last couple of 'contributions'). _________________________________________________________________________________________________ So whilst we're not quite in agreement over who would be classed the current rain-master, would anyone like to inform me of who previously has held this 'title', as my memory really only goes back as far as Senna?
maybe some of the older members can tell us canary -- must admit senna was the first true rainmaster i ever saw - i would be interested to know if any of the drivers before senna dominated in the way senna did for over nine yrs in wet conditions , allways been my biggest regret that i never saw stewart , moss , clark , fangio , maybe somebody could tell us how good they were in such conditions --
They were the characters I was thinking of. I'm sure I remember hearing stories of Clark unlapping himself and then overtaking the entire field in the wet (can anyone confirm that one???), so I'd guess he'd of taken the crown in that era, but I'm not too sure on the others. Edit: It seems that race was in the dry, but what an incredible race that must have been.
i have also heard that one as well , not sure if it was in wet conditions , maybe somebody could tell us the specific race and we could read up for ourselves on the specifics of the race -- might even be a clip knocking around on you tube --
yeh i must admit i did hear of clark performing such a feat but it did not ring any bells that he did it in the wet , i am started to get quite excited about vettel , like all the rest of the current drivers he is very good in the wet but as yet like all the rest has never really dominated in such conditions , at the rate that vettel seems to be improving and the capacity he has for absorbing knowledge it would not surprise me if he starts to dominate in this area as well -- could be way off base on that one as wet weather driving is a completely different kettle of fish from whizzing around in the dry , mind you he did dominate at canada this year until the safety cars scuppered him and in fairness button did force the mistake so who knows --
I'm not sure if it's already been posted, but there's an interesting article on ESPN F1, "The Greatest Wet Drives of All Time", which throws some interesting names into the hat. Apologies if it's already been posted.
Yes, it was a dry race. Starting from pole, Clark suffered a puncture some distance into the race (I cannot remember which lap). After limping back to the pits he had a very long pit stop (incomparable with today's 4 second wheel changes) and then rejoined the race a lap down on every car. He then set about putting in the most mesmerising performance ever seen, before or since; unlapping himself and then overtaking the entire field again - only to run out of fuel on the last lap, one or two corners from home! (Again, memory is letting me down here). But my memory of it was that it was dry.
Yeah, I've just been reading up on that race. One of the most impressive stats I've read was that he was lapping so fast he beat his own pole time on several laps!
in fairness cc you should direct your anger at the people who"s only desire is to dredge up old squabbles and petty arguments from the long ago finished bbc 606 -- that is what has bought about this recent little bout of sillyness on the thread - have a go at the people that just cant let it drop and maybe they will give it a rest in the future -- most of us including me only have a desire to see this forum progress and grow with formula 1 debate of real substance as the amount of intelligent topics i contribute combined with knowledgeable debate would suggest - the real culprits are the people that contribute nothing but only interest is continuelly raking up the past , have a go at them mate and the sillyness might cease -
actually this really reminds me of a xig argument. It goes on and on and on....... I remember the 200 reply threads on 606! zzz
I have to agree there is no clear driver whom when it starts raining you say "watch for xxxxx", but you have to say Button has had some great races in the rain so he is the most likely to claim this crown. Hamilton, Alonso and Vettel all are good in the rain too however. Maybe it is not the case that no drivers stand out as no one is really good, however with the current crop of drivers more are of the standard which used to stand out 8-9 years ago - so in fact they don't stand out (if you see what I mean).
Yes - thats what I said. Schmacher used to stand out and then Alonso and Raikkonen came along and he no longer stood, now Hamilton, Vettel and Button have come to that level too. In my opinion. Can any of them stand out from the crowd, maybe Button - he has had some stunning drives in the wet, but I don't think he has proved himself superior yet.
