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Transfer Rumours To sack or not to sack?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Jan 15, 2025.

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Should we sack Ange now?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2025.
  1. Yes

    45.2%
  2. No

    54.8%
  1. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

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    I think that's right which is another hit on our EBITD limit and will limit our expenditure. We've had three big home games in the League cup though which probably recovers £10m or so of revenue. Signing a £50m player this window adds about £10m to costs. That may be more than we can afford without risking having to sell someone in June.
     
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  2. Citizen Kane.

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    Deloitte's money league for 2024 was published last night.

    Perfect timing <laugh>
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

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    Essentially, we (9th) are still lagging behind Arsenal (7th) and Liverpool (8th) in matchday revenue and broadcasting income. The former is a bit of a concern given our stadium capacity and price of tickets. The latter is understandable as we aren't in the CL and are rarely a 'feature' game on a normal week.

    We are ahead of Arsenal in commercial revenue by quite a distance.

    However the income gap on those two teams is circa £100m per year. Chelsea (10th) are only £55m per year behind us.
     
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  4. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    No European football and exiting both cups before they got going was significantly damaging to our match day income.

    ENIC/Levy are obsessed with book balancing, whilst others are prepared to pump prime their search for sporting success. Villa (and more specifically their owners) have been prepared to invest on the pitch, whilst understanding that some degree of player trading may be required down the line, to balance the books. Done well, with a top notch DoF, it's working really well for them, Newcastle and Brighton, too.

    We're stuck in a knackered Austin Allegro watching souped up Cortinas and Lotus's cruise past us in third gear. They're not doing that because of bad luck. It was predictable. I started predicting it 5 years ago. I'm not ****ing clairvoyant. It was becoming blindingly obvious that the club had lost focus and direction during the stadium build...and there's very little sign that situation is being rectified.

    Whilst Levy remains at the head of this stinking fish, it won't be.
     
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  5. PowerSpurs

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    If none of Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and us were in the CL then I think we would have the highest revenue of those four. But CL makes a big difference which is why Arsenal and Liverpool are ahead of us.

    Our revenue is estimated as down £15m cf the previous season so our wages and player amortisation also have to be down to keep within the covenant limit.
     
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  6. KingHotspur

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  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Villa playing a very dangerous game. Leicester’s were crazy a year or so ago, was at about 115% iirc.

    I’d say an optimal level would be around 55-65%.

    I think ours ties into what gets said in that we don’t have enough star quality players.
     
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  8. KingHotspur

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    Just shows how well Liverpool are run. They’re the example for Spurs to follow for me.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Also the fact we've offloaded at least three players on six-figure salaries in the last eighteen months
     
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  10. The RDBD

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    Bettering Kings Rd FC now is a big achievement,
    considering their 20 odd years financial doping in the Chelsky era.
     
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  11. KingHotspur

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    So you’d say wages have gone down too?
     
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  12. The RDBD

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    Below 50% is very impressive for a PL club.
    But a projection of 37% would be astonishing.

    Villa : what does thin ice cracking sound like ??
     
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  13. KingHotspur

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    Impressive in what way?

    Villa’s seems unsustainable.
     
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  14. Citizen Kane.

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    Iirc Villa basically bet the house on finishing 4th last season, and it paid off. No CL income would have ruined them on PSR.

    Although tbh 'ruined' is a relative term as the penalty for a standard breach of rules seems to be a paltry fine and circa 4-8 points deducted.

    Maybe it's worth the risk?
     
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  15. The RDBD

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    In having the ratio that low (a serious show of control over the wage bill) .
     
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    we weren't in CL last season so that doesn't wash
     
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  17. PowerSpurs

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    That's partly because the other clubs' commercial revenue is mostly comprised of sponsorship which goes straight to the bottom line so can be spent entirely on football. Quite a lot of ours comes from hiring out the stadium and from related sales of food and drink which means substantial amounts of costs have to be netted off before leaving a surplus for football.
     
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  18. PowerSpurs

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    It might well be but having the stadium loans withdrawn is a different matter entirely.
     
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  19. Citizen Kane.

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    That will only happen on the transfer fees side of things.

    Wage bill is a different matter entirely. I'll elaborate:

    Capology currently has us as 8th highest in the PL, £104m per year.

    Two years ago, prior to multiple high earners leaving, we were 6th in the PL, £117m per year.

    Villa and Newcastle have now overtaken us.

    If we increased our wage ceiling by just £24m per year, we'd be level with Liverpool in 5th spot and probably able to attract a higher quality of player.

    The fact that we're 4th or 5th on revenue but 8th on wages should be seen as a massive problem, imo.

    We could do this comfortably without breaching PSR or loan covenants. It would require us to spend £24m less on transfer fees per year, which I think we can manage.
     
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  20. PowerSpurs

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    Yep my mistake...but you made quite a bit out of EL.
     
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