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It's not just them though, it's all of us
probably find pictures of them all looking like they did itYes, exactly the same.
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Here’s Starmer being his normal macho selfYes, well done. It's a bit more noteworthy when an actual fascist makes an actual fascist salute at the inauguration of an actual fascist US President.
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go and have a lie down
he will be gone forever at the next election
then you can move on to the next bogeyman
Not dissimilar to what Starmer did with his early release scheme........ eh?
Not saying it's right, in fact it's bloody stupid and dangerous......
What's your thoughts on the Southport monster, has there been a cover up? Found it strange that within 3 days of the murders Merseyside Police found evidence of him making Ricin and having other terrorist items but didn't release the information for 3 months when they charged him.... it certainly caused a vacuum for mis information to be circulated online.....
For one thing Trammers..even when they found the stuff in his house, it would take far more than 3 days to identify it...with all the containment necessary.
Also they would be careful on releasing information until the area was fully contained and very carefully checked..
Especially with all the riots going on.
This is sensible...and not a coverup
Also they would be careful on releasing information until the area was fully contained and very carefully checked..
Especially with all the riots going on.
This is sensible...and not a coverup
Get that Beth..... but weren't the riots maybe as a result of lack of information? If it was made public that it was a possible terrorist attack it might have stopped the far right agitators stirring up the hated that lead to the riots?
If I remember rightly the London Bridge murder was identified as a terrorist attack within hours of it happening thus stopping the conspiracy theories in their tracks..... transparency works.....
Completely different to the Starmer release scheme, and you know that. Starmer had to release people early because the Tories left the prisons full. Trump has chosen to release a group of his own violent far-right thug supporters who had been jailed for trying to overturn the democratic process. These people are now free to roam the country acting as his personal brownshirt militia.
I don't believe there was any cover up over Southport, what purpose would there have been in one? Care had to be taken not to jeopardise any prosecution. Farage has said that he 'd been told three days after the murders that the perpetrator had been expelled from school aged thirteen for bringing in a knife. Did he use this knowledge to try to dispel the social media lies about him being an asylum seeker recently arrived by boat? No, he chose instead to fan the flames by cryptically saying, 'We're not being told the whole truth'. There will be an inquiry into Southport. I hope that Farage's involvement in the riots forms part of it.
I agree transparency works
But a couple of things I think you may have got wrong here
1. The rumours that were on the net was that it was carried out by an illegal muslim immigrant, and that is why the riots attacked hotels etc where immigrants were being housed. That rumour was quashed quite quickly, that he was British born, but still the rioting went on ...because they thought he was a jihad. I believe the rioting really only stopped when Starmer made it clear that rioters really would be prosecuted heavily after arrest.
2.. under the definition of a terror attack IT WASN'T A TERROR ATTACK. That definition may have changed somewhat following Starmers statement this morning. This was a mad, violent dangerous kid who was looking to take his rage out on society. His father had stopped him going into his old school with weapons. He been seen at least 4 times by The Prevent Program , who deemed that he did not come under their remit as (Now that bit really really really gets to me) and so did nothing as they did not think his anger was linked to jihad or any other "indoctrination".
Yes he had ricin, yes he had jihad training literature, but he also had IRA information and information about USA school shootings
Trammers he was a completely alienated nutty kid.
Yes he should have been identified as one and supervised and helped or sectioned. .....something, but not ignored.
There is an awful lot for the state and the government to answer too... But deliberate hiding of the facts from the public I do not think they really did, any small delays were sensible for clarity correctness and safety reasons
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Southport wasn't a terrorist attack, though.
Does anyone think that those muppets at the "top" do have anything to say ? Those are frontmen and the group behind Trump will now have the say. Biden & most of Western Europe did stand for socialism which will now come to an end and we will see the extreme of capitalism now. AI will destroy hundred of millions of jobs in the coming years, which has already startet throughout Europe.
Looked like MADSEN did a nazi salute when acknowledging the Rangers fans
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