I just say what I see, and try and be honest about that. From what little I know, I really do think he's just a nutcase with a taste for violence under any name. I don't even know if he was a refugee. But I have always said regarding refugees, if they come from places such as Syria and Sudan, they will have seen atrocities the the people of the UK will never have seen, and when you put those people out into the general public without adequate psychological help, you are just asking for trouble. We can't even look after the mental health problems we do have. If you see the depraved you become the depraved because it warps your mind.
and Rwanda was where atrocities were carried out if memory serves me right, so did his parents escape that at the time...just did a quick google, it was 30 years ago, so it's a likely possibility they were, and how did that impact on his life growing up, even though he was in the UK, what stories were told to him as child. A child that then out of curiosity goes and reseraches the events. Interesting.
If you wanna believe he's not a terrorist then there's nothing me or an Al qieeeda jihad manual can tell you otherwise
Sure it did ... but whilst that might have had a big impact on his mentality; as did other factors - the bottom line is that his actions were plain evil ... Simpletons (especially those with a particular agenda) will want to define his actions as purely religiously motivated - but it seems far more complex than that the more that I read about him ... I made a post yesterday about Imans / Clerics denouncing acts like this (and I stand by that in general terms) but that would only apply if the event is proven to be Jihad based / linked. One of the 'excuses' given for non-intervention by the authorities is that there was no evidence of 'radicalisation' ... that needs to be thoroughly investigated now and I'm sure is one of the major areas to be evaluated. Obviously if they find a copy of the Quran in his belongings and if there is evidence that he prayed, went to mosques etc then there is a potential link to Islam...but not in itself to radicalisation... although it would increase the possibility of potential exposure to it, I imagine... The school shooters in the US are not, to my knowledge, religiously motivated - they often seem to be ex-pupils with a grudge and a desire for revenge / retribution - I don't think there is any doubt about his intent in attempting to get a taxi to his old school - or why his father was intent on preventing it - and it's this, more than anything else, that is making me re-evaluate my original thinking about his motivation - although this wouldn't rule out a religious or even dual motivation.
You are such a simpleton Sucky - see my last post for more information about things you've obviously not considered ...
Cba reading your drivel tbh Man had a terror manual and carried out an act of terror. And he's not a terrorist apparently. You fuking mug
No surprise there Sucky So owning a manual is all the proof you need - was he also a Provo? ... he had publications about the IRA, don't ya know ... was he a Nazi? apparently he had a book about Hitler and the death camps ... or was he next looking to conquer China, like Genghis Khan did? - he had a book ... Lucky for you then that it seems evident that you've never read one - you thick ****
I have ira books. And one on hitler But I dont own a specific manual of how to attack and murder non Muslims. That was written by terrorists. For terrorists.
Let me make it simple for you ... He was referred to the Governmental Prevent Extremeism programme on 3 separate occasions - each time for fears about his violent behaviour - never for suspicions that he had become a radicalised Muslim Jihadist ... So to be clear - you still think he did what he did because he became a radical Islamist and that a document downloaded from the Internet proves it? Yes or No?
His chances of joining the IRA are very very slim Same with the nazis And even less so with the ghengis Khans *****lian terror group. Which leads you to what conclusion?
I'm not sure why you are telling me all this, maybe it's so Sucky reads it. I've already said I didn't believe the attack was religiously motivated, or if I didn't that's what I meant. On the very little I do know, I've said he is a young man who is violent, to use your words which put it in better context, he is plain evil, for all the reasons I've previously said on this thread. If it was religiously motivated, I will comeback and say so. Now my attention turns to the parents, for what in the hell did they teach him as a kid...because something in this concerns me, I just don't know what yet OR should we be concerned about all Rwandans that come here, regardless of generation!
I can neither confirm or deny as I don't want to incriminate myself. Cba going jail again namean. If he can't join the nazis but has the book And he can't join the IRA but has the book And ghengis Khan is dead but has the book We just ignore the jihad terror manual.?
No we don't just ignore something, but that's like me asking should I be concerned because you have a book on Adolf Hitler, just because you own something don't make you a facist, but if you start growing a tash under your nose and start a comb over with your hair, then I may think differently.
I think we are very much on the same page and it's good to have sensible debate without the knee-jerk twatter influenced crap that pervades the site at times ...
Ler's just say; if he can't quote from the Quran, has never visited a mosque and doesn't pray daily ... he's not a 'real' muslim ... You probably get the Liverpool annual every Xmas, but you're no scouser...
