I’d like to see the percentage dead who were celebrating on the streets on October 7th/8th as a raped hostage and corpses were paraded.
Has the fighting in Ukraine and Gaza stopped now, I've heard fook all about them on the news? I assume Ukraine fighting will die down because of the winter terrain. Gaza they probs just run out of people to kill. It seems we have to all be concerned with LA for some reason....Celebs
Yeah it has. Did no one tell you? The LA coverage is OTT. Obviously it’s a big global news story but would like to see American news spend a week covering Norfolk being on fire
Up to186,000 deaths with potentially 10,000 bodies still rotting underneath the rubble, brings that percentage down to 0.00012% Or thereabouts...
Still a hell of a long way to go then. Have Hamas handed all the hostages over yet like Donald told them too? Or they just gunna let even more of their civilians be slaughtered because of their actions?
**** all that, man. The UK and US killed over half a million German civilians with our bombs during the war and the German soldiers weren’t even using them as human shields. Has even 3/4% of the population been killed yet in this ‘genocide’
I don't think they speak Donny It's kind of selfish that those Palestinian children keep going to bed at night where Israel want to drop their bombs.
You’d have thought the Hamas terrorists would have built some bomb shelters for these poor children, yeah? These children would probably still be alive today if Hamas hadn’t went on a murdering, raping, terrorist rampage. They could save many of them by moving themselves out of the way of civilians. They could save the rest of them by releasing the hostages. The blood of the children is on the hands of Hamas, I’m afraid.
The October attacks were a disaster for everyone involved. Hamas' own captured documents spell out a tactical misunderstanding of the situation, they simply never expected such a military response from the IDF.
Echoing what Saf said, in the years since taking over the Gaza Strip in 2006, Hamas successfully constructed 500km of military tunnels and bunkers, some more than 30 metres underground. Many are wide enough to drive a truck through. They did this on a coastal plain, where geology and topography make such an endeavour far riskier and more intricate than it would have been in regions with natural cave systems. In the wake of the 2014 conflict, NGOs drew up and sent an urgent report to the Hamas govt, urging them to invest in the construction of civilian shelter. The report estimated that a focused project would take 5-6 years until completion. Hamas ignored the report. In close to two decades, Hamas didn't build a single shelter for the population it claims to represent and defend.
The death toll is likely to be higher. I do question the Lancet's methods though. I was reading the report earlier today and did a double take when I got to p.5 which is where social media apparently becomes a reliable source of data.
I don't doubt they give scant regard for prioritising civilian shelters None of that negates the fact that it is Israeli weapons, bombs, drones, rockets and snipers that are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people.
If true, they are as stupid as they are evil. They pulled this **** when the most right-wing govt in Israeli history was in power. What did they think was going to happen?!
What I read was that Hamas had a belief that the political upheaval in Israel combined with hostage taking would paralyze the Israeli response. That Hamas could use this delay in response as a political bargaining chip, this was done with Irans knowledge. When the war became boots on the ground, the physical support from Iran and Hezbollah was not what Hamas expected and left them in the mire. Then the underestimation of Israels espionage, I don't think they thought it was possible that Iranian hotels were wired to explode.
I don't want us to fall into our usual circular argument about casus belli and proportionality again. I think there is much to be said about the question of letting problems fester for years on end without anyone doing anything about it. The real question post Oct 7th is: how did it come to this? There is an entrenched rot on both sides that the world has turned a blind eye to for decades. It's been obvious for ages what Hamas is about and how the treat their own citizens, yet no one did anything about it because as long as they weren't causing too much of an international headache, why bother? All this Chamberlian-esque appeasement did was embolden the group to conduct more and more deadly strategies, which eventually erupted in the horrific scenes we saw on Oct 7th. Israeli society has also had its fair share of rot for many, many years that no one has done anything about. What was mere rhetoric two decades ago is now a younger generation of settler who feel emboldened to regularly vandalise and torch Palestinian homes with absolute impunity. And overseeing it all is a man who should have been locked up years ago for corruption and blackmail, yet somehow became Israel's longest serving PM. Again, because no one did anything about it for years and years and it eventually erupted in the response to Oct 7th. My heart tells me that the region needs a complete reset. My head has no idea how that can happen.
Wow. They really are as stupid as they are evil. Great at building tunnels though. They'd have completed HS2 in a couple of years and billions below budget.
