Despite the popular view, I think it's pretty special supporting a team who have ethics and aspirations about playing football so that they entertain. The modern view imported from the USA, like most things in England, of winning is the only thing is ridiculous. Of course winning is what you want to do in any and every game, but in the process you need to enjoy what you see. I see posters on here do that, and also praise the opposition when they do something of merit. I am not here for tribal reasons, I am here to be entertained. Just as Gladiator asked. No digs intended BTW
The reason that I'm still a Spurs supporter is that I ultimately prefer the quality of the product to the result. Yes, it's always nice to witness success now and again, however occasionally, but some the highest points of my life involve watching our lads playing the 'beautiful game' beautifully.
Me too with a massive union jack with the words " come on Spurs its double time again " it can be seen in some old images of the game , it was also at the villa final with me
Mentioned before, as this programme always manages to make me feel good about the UK, but this week's 'I'm sorry, I haven't a clue' show was quite brilliant: great comedians with clever, inoffensive material. A masterclass! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002625g?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
I scarcely watch any other games, either live or highlights. The game is a sad caricature of what it was...back in the day. The rule changes, appalling officiating, VAR and bent oil money have have destroyed my great love for it.
Thought you could get away with it, eh? I saw that subtle move! > Lancaster Gate > MORNINGTON CRESCENT I win.
I actually enjoy watching football in general, but the officials in this country and the corruption in team ownership is horrific. Things like VAR and semi-automated offside work elsewhere, which just proves that it's specific to the English pyramid.
If there's a (really) decent match on and I'm literally kicking my heels at home I might have it on in the background, but otherwise I only watch Spurs. That's painful enough! Otherwise I just watch the odd clips of specific goals or incidents, more as news items than a love of The Game itself. Having said that, 30+ years ago I'd be watching football, athletics, cricket, even snooker, religiously. Now, it's a few highlights of Tests or live ODI's & 20/20's and Ireland RU matches. So times (and age) do change habits.
I'm with you here. I was watching some La Liga stuff on Wednesday and the VAR decisions are so much quicker and clearer. Unless it's Real Madrid of course, then it tends to go full on Stockley Park...
Yep, I add boxing to the list as I used to love that, now it bores the t*** of me. Oh and cricket but to think that is because it seems to be on 24/7, 365 days of the year! Too much of a good thing I suspect....
I used to know someone who worked in customer services at the old Wembley. Apparently they just accepted there would be a lot of complaint letters after each match about the "restricted" view and simply refunded the ticket price. I guess it was still worth selling the seats as not everyone complained. Presumably automatic refunds was not always the case.
It's because they just want to make the right decision. They don't care if the man on the pitch is right and neither does he. Get it right and everyone's happy.
That may be a little bit ambitious. But football was a different game back then. However. I don’t think Shankly wouldn’t have played in a way which exposed weaknesses which other teams were able to exploit. Shankly wasn’t about being solely entertaining yet being in the lower top half of the table with a possible chance of competing for a cup. He was about winning the biggest prizes. Ange’s tactics aren’t going to achieve that - albeit his teams are entertaining
I was only talking about the ability to say profound truths about football in a very simple way, not their tactics. There is a lot of nonsense talked about Ange's tactics IMO. Essentially it's about mobility, a variation on Arthur Rowe,s Spurs 'Push and Run' and Rinus Michael's development of that into 'Dutch Total Football'. It's success will depend, again IMO, on getting a strong player in midfield who can control, calm, and inspire the team. Shankly found his in Ron Yeats and all really successful teams have such a player. Spurs don't and Ange needs to find one although Gray or Bergval may develop into such a role. I still feel that if Ange is allowed the time he could produce something special at Tottenham.
Just found this on a Liverpool site. A bit of perspective. 'PERHAPS the most important date of all time in the history of Liverpool Football club is the 1st December 1959, but given that most of you reading this will not even have been born then, for the record that is the date when Bill Shankly walked through the doors as the manager of our club for the first time. At the time we were just a second division side in the days when there was no premiership, very little televised football and Tottenham Hotspur were arguably the best team in the top tier (which was then called division one ) and they proved that by virtue of winning the double the following season.' EDIT: Copied this onto the Liverpool game thread but left it here as well, because the links work whereas on the copy they don't. Just in case you want to see the original articles.
