Am I on MTV being Punk’d? Coyle’s only two plays are pass back to Jones or run with his head down into no man’s land. He doesn’t look to see what’s in front of him. Neither does Jones. Don’t get me started on his crossing. I actually can’t believe you mentioned that as a strength of his. He’s a decent defender, as is Jones, but both are shocking on a technical level when it comes to decision-making in possession.
We could go back and forth forever on this, but to me it just seems like you're devoted to this idea of the former League 1 players being scrappy cloggers and nothing more and nothing they ever do can change that view. I think with Jones it's even more wrong than with Coyle.
No, it’s based on what I see with my eyes. McLoughlin could be a ‘League 1 scrappy clogger’ by that logic but I think McLoughlin is a much better passer and has a better footballing brain than either Coyle or Jones. He’s just slow as ****.
That is genuinely gob-smackingly wrong. Coyle is a very poor crosser of the ball, how many times does he actually get a cross in to an area where someone might get a head to it? His crosses mostly either hit the first man or sail over everyone's heads into touch. Coyle's workrate and willingness to run forward when there's space are to be applauded, but his ability on the ball and passing are well below the standard we need to be playing at the top end of the table. Doesn't mean we can't succeed with him playing, we did last season, but that we could do with a better footballer in that position. Hence Drameh.
Over the years he's been great for the club. But his decent defending is last ditch defending. He has no pace to counteract an aggressive winger, more especially a skilful one, and invariably can be seen clawing at him trying to catch up, he gets sucked in to a defensive line adjacent to his CB leaving acres of space. Having no pace can be made up at an certain age by craft, unfortunately Father Time has caught up with him at 29.
To add on to this, Lewis-Potter and Greaves had their breakout seasons during that League One title-winning season. I don’t think they’re ’League One cloggers’. Even at the time, before he got poorly, I thought Emmanuel was a better footballer than Coyle in League One. Coyle’s fine as club captain but he’s nowhere near the technical level. How many other Championship teams would he start for as much as he does for us? He’s an okay defender but extremely limited in his passing range, his vision, his decision-making etc.
It’s an interesting debate about Coyle… City fans fall off into 2 camps, some just love a tryer who runs his socks off , and that’s all they want . Others want players with ability . For me 100 % effort and running should come as standard , and it’s not solely enough . That was my point about Longman the other day, I don’t care he runs all day, he kicks fresh air more then the ball and for a championship player it’s not good enough.
thats the crux of the problem with this team we have players who can run all day and give it their all (one big problem here though... SO does every single other championship team) but we have a severe lack of quality, which is evidenced by our winless in 13 and bottom of the league position athletes are the bare minimum in the championship these days we have far too many of the same types in one team players like slater and coyle can work if the rest of the team is higher quality.. but its not close
I agree, every team needs a few of these to do the donkey work , mixed in with a few who can actually do something with the football . I always say if i wanted to just watch people running , I’d follow athletics .
Omur has great technical ability But he has no real impact at all in games Its why i said hed be a great 5 a side player
I think Omur is a not a fit to our play style, you need a team who plays half of the game around opposition goal for him to be effective. Lately we barely pass other half, and it is usually quick attacks. We need athletic players in winter transfer to make a difference.
